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[hosty_matt]: Hello, wel comee back to your wrong. Uh, this is going to be one of our patented

[hosty_matt]: monthly round ups. Uh with me, as always, I have. uh, the Luciano.

[cobra]: Vcian, the one

[hosty_matt]: I don't know any other ones. so

[cobra]: fair enough.

[cobra]: hello, hello, hello,

[cobra]: hiu.

[hosty_matt]: listen. that's that's That's the qual you get from the Luciano.

[ll_cool_c_est]: He was also doing the wave. just so just for those who who can't see

[hosty_matt]: Wow,

[hosty_matt]: Yes,

[cobra]: Yeah,

[cobra]: Yeah,

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: His Majesty

[hosty_matt]: yeah, all of you. Um, and we have who is calling himself this week. ▁l, ▁, cool

[hosty_matt]: set say,

[hosty_matt]: okay,

[cobra]: yeah,

[cobra]: I hadn't understood the jokeing. I wish I hadn't

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Hie,

[hosty_matt]: is that's Chris from Montreal, and just for all of you

[cobra]: K. from Mo.

[hosty_matt]: listeners who

[hosty_matt]: are

[hosty_matt]: Chris is having

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm not a stroke.

[hosty_matt]: a stroke, but uh, don't worry about it.

[cobra]: As usual, his aious work.

[ll_cool_c_est]: What makes you think what? One of these days the Hard Stroks Foundation is

[ll_cool_c_est]: good to catch Catch Usli and we going slapt with. I don't know Slander Liel,

[ll_cool_c_est]: What have you?

[hosty_matt]: You're exhibiting all the signs of stroke

[cobra]: clearly, clearly he a stroke.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm so glad neither of

[hosty_matt]: rabbling

[ll_cool_c_est]: you is is a licensed position,

[ll_cool_c_est]: but

[hosty_matt]: slurring your words.

[ll_cool_c_est]: your diagnosis,

[ll_cool_c_est]: your Western medicine isless,

[hosty_matt]: Wow, um, yeah, and that's it. Uh, Spencer is unable to make it this evening. He

[hosty_matt]: has better plans. Apparently, Who knows if he'll show up If he does, We let them

[hosty_matt]: comment on one thing in one thing. only in the meantime we're going to dip right

[hosty_matt]: into the news. Uh, first up. Um, Listen, you guys probably know this, but we

[hosty_matt]: want to talk about it Into the spider verse. Part two, trailer dropped to some

[hosty_matt]: brish. What? What are we all thinking? It?

[ll_cool_c_est]: fucking excited.

[cobra]: I, so I love the first one. No, No, I was justcause I.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I can see the look at your face and for the listeners. I' bracing

[cobra]: yeah. well, I think people are like excited about it. I think it's going to be

[cobra]: like

[cobra]: derivative and boring'. Going to say

[ll_cool_c_est]: reallying,

[hosty_matt]: Wow,

[cobra]: Yeah.

[hosty_matt]: shots fired. ha, y.

[cobra]: Well, from the trailer it feels like they're trying too hard.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Really

[cobra]: Now. I don't know if I'm missing any contexts because

[ll_cool_c_est]: you are.

[cobra]: I haven't watched. Um,

[cobra]: for sure, but I, I don't know if I'm be seeing any contexts because I haven't watched

[cobra]: the the latest Spiderman movie and

[cobra]: I know that there's like some.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I don't think you need that

[hosty_matt]: they exist in separate worlds. Right. this is males, moralice,

[cobra]: okay. So then then I think it's going to be just like an excuse to make a trailer. I

[cobra]: hope I'm wrong.

[ll_cool_c_est]: to make a

[ll_cool_c_est]: trailering

[hosty_matt]: Jesus,

[cobra]: Yes, a movie a trailer. Fuck you. Yeah, a movie. Um, I hope I'm wrong because I

[cobra]: really really love the first one. I hope they do a good job with the second one, but

[cobra]: like the trailer didn't I wasn't like super excited with the trailer. I was like,

[cobra]: actually, like, Oh God, I hope they fuck this up,

[cobra]: but just might be that I'm old.

[hosty_matt]: Chris. can you combat Louisiano's old crotedines with some positivity and hype?

[ll_cool_c_est]: happily, So the context that your old crusty dusty ass is missing is thus

[ll_cool_c_est]: goes thusly

[ll_cool_c_est]: okay. One consistency. So they, they leave us off from the the last movie,

[ll_cool_c_est]: and it's a really great bridge into the events that are going to take place

[ll_cool_c_est]: in the next movie. right? So in almost any time travel movie or intermional

[ll_cool_c_est]: movie, Wheth you think of?

[ll_cool_c_est]: I don't know when you shouldn't do Sh, when you shouldn't do shit in in past

[ll_cool_c_est]: or future That could mess with the whole spectrum of time. Someone's got to

[ll_cool_c_est]: come in and either give you a slap on the wrist or come fuck you up because

[ll_cool_c_est]: of the ramifications. Youve you know you inadvertently or deliberately have

[ll_cool_c_est]: caused right. So for those reasons, since this, this spider man from their

[ll_cool_c_est]: future is coming to like, Lay the smack down on on Miles. Moralic. I don't

[ll_cool_c_est]: understand why that would be the case. So for me, that's a big question mark.

[ll_cool_c_est]: because dude's supposed to be able to to look back into into the past and see

[ll_cool_c_est]: like so called good deeds and like heroic career. So why would he come all

[ll_cool_c_est]: the way back? Sorry, Why would he come from all the way in the future? Come,

[ll_cool_c_est]: fuck this kid up. I don't get it and so has so have sories like these happen?

[ll_cool_c_est]: Sure, has it happened with with a great animation team that uh that we've uh,

[ll_cool_c_est]: we've seen be like the likes of of which. Like, Have you seen any any team

[ll_cool_c_est]: like this executed for? Nope, but I, I really love these characters so I

[ll_cool_c_est]: trust them. I. I. I wasn't. I didn't know what to expect for the first movie,

[ll_cool_c_est]: but um, they've earned. They've earned my trust, and and I'm excited to see

[ll_cool_c_est]: what they're going to do it. It. Just as I said, the stories like this have

[ll_cool_c_est]: happened before, but at the same time something feels fresh about it, so I

[ll_cool_c_est]: don't feel burnt out just yet. Um, I feel like they' Ive got plenty of gas in

[ll_cool_c_est]: the tank to see where they go, and once again like they're fully leaning into

[ll_cool_c_est]: their, their, their visual, their unique visual style and treatment. Um, it's

[ll_cool_c_est]: faretic and my God, it's just. it's just so visually raw. It's like I. if I,

[ll_cool_c_est]: I would i be. I'd be afraid if I suffered epileptic seizures, but I'd still

[ll_cool_c_est]: risk it to go and check this shit out.

[hosty_matt]: Okay,

[hosty_matt]: I mean, that's I'm glad you're comparing this to receiving a seizure? Such

[ll_cool_c_est]: You know

[cobra]: It was supposed to be positive, Chris.

[hosty_matt]: typeprase I think

[ll_cool_c_est]: it is. I would risk everything.

[hosty_matt]: came. It came back around. I think,

[cobra]: I think it's going to be' going to be. I have no doubt that it's going to be visually

[cobra]: pleasing movie because it's the same studio and they did a fantastic job at the

[cobra]: first. I'm just not sure

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[cobra]: if I like the direction that they're taking with the story and the characters. Like

[ll_cool_c_est]: H.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Interesting.

[cobra]: I don't know, it felt a little too childish in the trailer. But then again, it a

[cobra]: trailer can really judge the thing. so

[ll_cool_c_est]: When did you watch the trailer out

[hosty_matt]: Uh,

[ll_cool_c_est]: of curiosity?

[cobra]: I don't know. Two weeks ago whenever it came out, the day came up

[ll_cool_c_est]: It wasn't. It's been a lot. a long, longer than that, but okay, Che,

[cobra]: three weeks. then. I don't know when

[ll_cool_c_est]: that

[cobra]: it was.

[hosty_matt]: are Miller and Lord Back directrecting

[ll_cool_c_est]: good question.

[hosty_matt]: it. Or is it a different person? I didn't really catch that.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I didn't catch that either.

[cobra]: Uh, let's see

[ll_cool_c_est]: I just assumed it was, and and after the success you would think that they

[ll_cool_c_est]: would. They would literally just go for it.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, it. it just seems weird that's not mentioned. But maybe that's why I not

[hosty_matt]: mentioned is because it's just it's just

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[hosty_matt]: them again. Um,

[cobra]: that's weird. It not mentioned. Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: I. it, you know it's fine like I think I, I kind of lean on the Cs' side. I

[hosty_matt]: mean, there's no. there's no reason to doubt them based on what they did And I

[hosty_matt]: came with no expectation was blown away by the first one, so I'm going at least

[hosty_matt]: give them a little bit of benefit of the doubt on the second one

[hosty_matt]: until they they ruin. they rua for me. Yeah, and I think you know it's nice to.

[cobra]: Oh, I'm watching the shit out of it regardless.

[hosty_matt]: I. listen. this is not true. I

[ll_cool_c_est]: The answer is yes,

[hosty_matt]: have no proof. uh,

[hosty_matt]: yeah's great. That's good

[cobra]: Yeah, I, I just looked as well. yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: They. they wrote it.

[hosty_matt]: to hear. That's a. That's a definite bonus. Um. I was just going to point out

[hosty_matt]: that Notts, I don't think this is the first time it's ever happened, but I just

[hosty_matt]: want to point of the fact that Jesska Drew, um is is a historically a white

[hosty_matt]: spider woman. Um, and they've cast uh e a A as as the voice

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh, my

[hosty_matt]: arectors or first actor. I guess so, if that's accurate, Uh, it was cast a while

[ll_cool_c_est]: it.

[hosty_matt]: ago. but if that's Acc, that is. that's to me. that's the first time a black

[hosty_matt]: woman has been cast to voice a ▁quote unquote

[cobra]: oh nice.

[hosty_matt]: white woman's character. Now, whether or not they change jesk, je' skin color. I

[hosty_matt]: mean, go for it. Who gets a shit right? It doesn't really matter to me. Um, but

[hosty_matt]: it's just that, just thought that was a little interesting thing that really

[hosty_matt]: really happens. You know it's white women voicing colored characters, So

[ll_cool_c_est]: I really don't. It's possible. I wouldn't be. I

[hosty_matt]: yep.

[ll_cool_c_est]: wouldn't be surprised if they. if they changed the ethnicity. Becauseverse

[cobra]: Yeah, and it's like this is one of those very easy

[cobra]: Yeah, and it's like this is one of those very easy

[hosty_matt]: sure, why not? right?

[cobra]: inclus, and representation wins Because there's nothing that says Jessica Drew has to

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm, Mhm,

[cobra]: be white,

[cobra]: so

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, yeah, exactly. so. uh. well, see like I was. I think it's going to be. uh.

[hosty_matt]: I'm pretty excited for the movie whenever it comes up. Um, moving on to our next

[hosty_matt]: topic.

[hosty_matt]: Have you guys heard of

[hosty_matt]: Twitch?

[cobra]: Yes,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes,

[hosty_matt]: Okay,

[cobra]: I. I honestly thought. I justt thought your question is good. Beha, You ever guys

[cobra]: ever heard of white people?

[hosty_matt]: spoiler learnt, sir, That's

[ll_cool_c_est]: I see

[hosty_matt]: not where we're going yet. I'm I'm trying to build up to this topic.

[hosty_matt]: Have you heard of the Socialist streamer? Hassan, uh piker picker. I'm not sure.

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[hosty_matt]: so

[cobra]: I have. Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: so essentially what happened to him is he was going through? He's generally, you

[hosty_matt]: know, he just talks. He doesn't really play games and stuff. He just kind of

[hosty_matt]: talks and and about different, you know things politically and stuff. And and he

[hosty_matt]: used the the word uh, cracker, Um,

[cobra]: you have to say the seawards sir,

[hosty_matt]: to to talk about people. he did. Yeah, well, no, that's that's. See you next

[hosty_matt]: Tuesday, But um,

[hosty_matt]: and so it it got into sort of a bit of. You know, there was a conversation with

[hosty_matt]: the his, The fans and watching on the channel whether that was offensive or not,

[hosty_matt]: Uh, hateful out of line, and he said No, he's been called it at the ▁quote. Here

[hosty_matt]: in the article is that Uh, I've been called cracker more times than every single

[hosty_matt]: one of you fucking pasty little cracker bitches at my chat. Okay, so you know,

[hosty_matt]: take that with a great assault, Um. but he actually got banned Um,

[hosty_matt]: from

[hosty_matt]: from uh, twitch, uh, because of using the word cracker, Um, And and that, the

[hosty_matt]: article goes on to kind of cover. A bit about Jo. Cracker dates back at least to

[hosty_matt]: Shakespeare in times, and was sytorically deployed against poor white, or

[hosty_matt]: deployed against poor white people and immigrants by other whiteight people. So

[hosty_matt]: thanks, white people would a way to not just hold the racism for people of other

[hosty_matt]: culture and and skin colors. Um.

[ll_cool_c_est]: caring Gu can be turned on Thysf.

[ll_cool_c_est]: caring Gu can be turned on Thysf.

[cobra]: That's so weird be cause. I.

[cobra]: I also, I always thought that the the term came from, like during the

[cobra]: the slavery period in the U. And that's what the slaves called the white people.

[hosty_matt]: Oh, I'm sure they did, but it's nice. I.

[cobra]: No, I thought that that's when it came from. Not not that it was like around for a

[cobra]: lot longer.

[ll_cool_c_est]: That's a very good question.

[hosty_matt]: there's I think there's a. there's an article link through here, an Mpr call

[hosty_matt]: from code switches, and it talks about the secret history of the work cracker,

[hosty_matt]: So there's some details in there who want to get into it, but

[hosty_matt]: it's quite detailed and long story short. It's not just

[hosty_matt]: from white people in slavery.

[cobra]: Yeah, I. I, this is so dumb. like. honestly

[cobra]: like banning the guy for using the word cracker is like.

[cobra]: Why? Why is that ath? Whycause? This is the thing people don't understand. At least

[cobra]: in my, in my mind, the the reason why some words are not okay's because they're used

[cobra]: to oppress people right when? Hasn't a white person ever been oppressed with the use

[cobra]: of the word cracker

[cobra]: like it doesn't make any sense.

[cobra]: There's I don't know it. It seems like virtue signaling to me is dumb.

[cobra]: It's

[cobra]: I can tell you as a white person

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[cobra]: fucking call me cracker. I don't care

[cobra]: like it makes no difference to me. call me honky, too. I don't give a shit like it's

[ll_cool_c_est]: I was looking at Honky, as well, and

[cobra]: yeah.

[ll_cool_c_est]: it doesn't seem. it seems. Um.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Apparently, according to ▁urban dictionary, though honky originated in

[ll_cool_c_est]: Chicago in the nineteen forties,

[cobra]: okay,

[hosty_matt]: Well,

[hosty_matt]: her predictor, I wouldn't lie.

[ll_cool_c_est]: you know,

[cobra]: no, Yeah, the the source of truth.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Paragon of chronicled chronicled history.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Honestly,

[ll_cool_c_est]: I, I feel like I don't know. feels like a a bunch of wet blanket, wet blanket

[ll_cool_c_est]: folk just mashing away on their keyboard or keyboards. trying to

[cobra]: Yep. Yep.

[ll_cool_c_est]: do something about nothing.

[cobra]: this. This to me has the same you know connotation, almost as like when you say black

[cobra]: lives matter and some pasty white idiot says all lives matter. It's the same thing

[cobra]: for me.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, that's That's the exact energy I'm reading out of this is is you know.

[hosty_matt]: it's like, Yeah, all is matter, but how come mostly black people are dying from

[hosty_matt]: easily

[hosty_matt]: preventable causes. Let's focus on that one first and then we can worry about.

[cobra]: Yeah, it' it's like that comic. It's like that comic, right,

[hosty_matt]: Yeah.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Talk about it.

[cobra]: The the house thing is like I that have to save my house, my husband. I have to save

[cobra]: our houses. Yeah, but your house is not on fire.

[hosty_matt]: yeah,

[hosty_matt]: yeah, so it's it's interesting to see twitch twitches struggled with a lot of

[hosty_matt]: problems over the last year in terms of how how they handle problematic

[hosty_matt]: behavior. Um, there's been a lot of um. I can't remember these act term, but

[hosty_matt]: it's there'. people who go into um, uh, bypock people streams

[cobra]: Yeah, hate rating. Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: and just spam hate. Yeah, hate reading. Yeah, they

[cobra]: yeah,

[hosty_matt]: spam hateful messages and stuff, and and to to right now it as is as of this

[hosty_matt]: recording and I haven't looked too deeply into it, but they haven't really found

[hosty_matt]: a solution to that and really prevented it from happening on the system, but

[hosty_matt]: they're able to ban someone for using word cracker, and it just feels a little

[hosty_matt]: bit like they're not focusing on

[hosty_matt]: what's truly problematic on their system. Uh, and my dog agrees, so that's

[cobra]: y.

[hosty_matt]: that's pretty good for me personally.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Go forward, Bruce.

[cobra]: that's that's really matters.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, um, yeah, so I always see how this one plays out. I mean, he got back on

[hosty_matt]: Towich about a week, three minutes and forty nine seconds after he was banned.

[hosty_matt]: Um, as as streamer. banns. the Twitter account which I didn't know exist in

[hosty_matt]: right now says so

[hosty_matt]: hey, we'll learn something every day.

[ll_cool_c_est]: So what did we really learn?

[ll_cool_c_est]: cracker folk? I'm not talking to you and talking about the Web.

[hosty_matt]: White people are the worst

[cobra]: Yeah,

[cobra]: not but not all white peopleg.

[hosty_matt]: fuck you

[ll_cool_c_est]: Why would you?

[ll_cool_c_est]: not all

[hosty_matt]: moving on Segu.

[ll_cool_c_est]: that? That sounded like he was in support of you, But okay,

[hosty_matt]: I don't know. I don't trust them.

[ll_cool_c_est]: No trust.

[cobra]: no, I was advocating for myself

[cobra]: no, I was advocating for myself

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh,

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, see that's why you shouldn't

[ll_cool_c_est]: okay.

[hosty_matt]: trust them

[ll_cool_c_est]: The plood, the plot thickens.

[hosty_matt]: moving out to the next

[ll_cool_c_est]: Uh,

[hosty_matt]: item. Have you guys heard of Nf Ts.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah,

[cobra]: near field transmissions.

[ll_cool_c_est]: is it that that um? that football league for uh technology by you know the

[ll_cool_c_est]: national football te.

[cobra]: I was careed for a second.

[ll_cool_c_est]: what?

[cobra]: I was so scared for a second.

[ll_cool_c_est]: what would you? Why are you scared?

[cobra]: I don't know.

[ll_cool_c_est]: What? What could I possibly have said?

[cobra]: With the Te so many bad things,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Like racial things?

[hosty_matt]: National football? What?

[ll_cool_c_est]: I said technology.

[cobra]: Let you know what. let's ha way into something less risque.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Why I I. i.

[hosty_matt]: Okay? you know what's fine, Chris.

[ll_cool_c_est]: the listeners. listeners twee at us. What

[hosty_matt]: Obey this, Obey the segu.

[ll_cool_c_est]: the fuck? do you think he could have thought? I sure, sure, sure, but wait,

[ll_cool_c_est]: he's not the host. There's still time on the

[hosty_matt]: I.

[ll_cool_c_est]: clock. Did you? did you say? ▁w?

[hosty_matt]: No, we say

[ll_cool_c_est]: Damn, he said it.

[hosty_matt]: hey, Okay.

[hosty_matt]: Have you heard of Nfts?

[cobra]: Oh, a circular Seway. I like it.

[hosty_matt]: Didn't say I was moving

[ll_cool_c_est]: Okay.

[hosty_matt]: on.

[cobra]: I hat it. I hate it.

[ll_cool_c_est]: It feels like it feels

[ll_cool_c_est]: feels wrong. Feels cheap.

[hosty_matt]: Punchable.

[ll_cool_c_est]: punchable. Yes,

[hosty_matt]: feel funable.

[cobra]: punch. Yes,

[ll_cool_c_est]: like

[cobra]: punch boys. a good word.

[ll_cool_c_est]: me being uh, being a being like an artist. Um,

[ll_cool_c_est]: like before I, before I went into like U. S design. I. I did. I had a a

[ll_cool_c_est]: stretch of my career in graphic design before that illustration. and when

[ll_cool_c_est]: like the like for those people who are like, I don't know. Even those be even

[ll_cool_c_est]: people and kids who are just like racking millions, apparently off of stuff

[ll_cool_c_est]: they're doing. Half of me is like good for you, and the other half is these.

[ll_cool_c_est]: My Fuggs have no training and like other people are just I don't know. Rate

[ll_cool_c_est]: like I don't know. Attacking the gross. The The, The, The Digital Art grocery

[ll_cool_c_est]: store, Because it's hot. I don't understand it, but at the same time, like

[ll_cool_c_est]: people I know said you should also put through some of your Arkins at that

[ll_cool_c_est]: until like T. and for me, it feels like I would be cheaping it in a way, but

[ll_cool_c_est]: that' just me.

[hosty_matt]: Well, Chris. lucky for you,

[hosty_matt]: Uh, there are some people that are happy to cheap in their art for a quick buck,

[hosty_matt]: Um, Most notably our friends at Ubieoft have

[hosty_matt]: have published. Uh, really have managed. I think they put out their the first,

[hosty_matt]: their first, or the first sort of Um initiative and it's called quartz. Like the

[hosty_matt]: Yeah. Courtrs can't be called diamond because it's cheap and shitty's what it's

[ll_cool_c_est]: No quart like Okay, Courts got a couckle.

[hosty_matt]: called quartz.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, I, my ennunciation is poor on this one

[hosty_matt]: quartz. Uh, maybe that's better, Um, and it's going to allow them to you know,

[ll_cool_c_est]: I got you know,

[hosty_matt]: take money from people for buying in game weapons vehicles, cosmetics, Um,

[hosty_matt]: you know, uh, let's before we get into that. Uh, we have a couple of other

[hosty_matt]: people, Uh companies making news for

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[hosty_matt]: the same thing. the company behind stocker, the soccer game series specifically,

[hosty_matt]: Um, in stock or two, they canceel plants that include n f Ts in stockc, or two

[hosty_matt]: after Uh blowback from from their Uh

[hosty_matt]: audience. Uh, that is, G, S. C. Game Worlds is the company that produces it or

[hosty_matt]: publishes it. Um. they try to defend it and they quickly walk it back. like all

[hosty_matt]: good politicians, do, Um, stand up for five seconds and then immediately give

[hosty_matt]: up, and of course, listen, One more company is in in on this game, And Uh, that

[hosty_matt]: is Uh, Square Unix, and they are

[hosty_matt]: very horny for it. Apparently,

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: Um, Why why they are horny for I don't. I don't know. Um,

[cobra]: so

[ll_cool_c_est]: Go for it.

[cobra]: I tell you why Because they like

[cobra]: the executives in these companies

[cobra]: care about is the bucks.

[cobra]: and right now like, like Chris said, like this is the hot new thing that people think

[cobra]: they can reke in, You know, Easy Millions,

[cobra]: and

[cobra]: the, they don't care whether it's going to be good for anything else other than

[cobra]: making money. That's my only explanation for this

[ll_cool_c_est]: That's my fear, toocause. I

[cobra]: and

[ll_cool_c_est]: got Fck.

[cobra]: I was just going to say to me, this is dot net bubble dog, to point out

[cobra]: like it's dot com. Not that that sorry dot com bubble.

[cobra]: Not that is you see.

[hosty_matt]: nice work.

[cobra]: ha, My head is stuck at work.

[hosty_matt]: Y.

[cobra]: Yeah, do the dot com bubble again all over again. People like investing their life

[cobra]: savings, and like you know, making moves with money, they cannot afford to make move

[cobra]: with just shoving this into this n T bullshit and then it's going to crash is going

[cobra]: to be bad.

[hosty_matt]: so I disagree with you on the premise that

[hosty_matt]: the logic behind dot coms was sound in the sense that it was a way for

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: people to advertise and sell things on line. Just no one can figure how to

[hosty_matt]: monetize it. But the way we're using n f ts. now in terms of

[hosty_matt]: reflecting artwork, reflecting digital or religious artwork is be the biggest

[hosty_matt]: thing Weve seen digit

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: art work. You know, we seen, uh, a B, A top shots. Uh, you know, those are just

[hosty_matt]: video clips in the form of cards of of plays in the N. B. A and I bought a

[hosty_matt]: couplecause. I wanted to

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[hosty_matt]: see what it is about and it's like you get like a. You know if it's like a

[hosty_matt]: common, We call it, you know it like one of thirty thousand versions of the car

[hosty_matt]: in the world. And and the challenge that I can't rob my head around. And this is

[hosty_matt]: why I think N. T and games are problematic. Is what's what's

[hosty_matt]: the applied value of all these things only exists based on someone else's want

[hosty_matt]: of this thing you're selling. And the problem is going to be.

[hosty_matt]: How do we guarantee the continued want and and value of the thing right? Because

[hosty_matt]: the value isn't what you paid for. The value is really what someone else will

[hosty_matt]: pay for it. And so like the Mo Lisa, for example, its value is that it's

[hosty_matt]: historical, one, one artifact more or less. Um, and when you talk about N f ts

[hosty_matt]: like they're kind of one of one, But but what you get, I can also get by just

[hosty_matt]: saving a picture of it right and I basically get all the value you

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[hosty_matt]: get of.

[cobra]: it's worse than that because you're right and beyond that. So what did you get when

[cobra]: you bought a top sh H

[cobra]: to it?

[hosty_matt]: Well, I, Yeah

[cobra]: And and

[hosty_matt]: and I, I have a collection.

[cobra]: like this is your version of this thing. What

[hosty_matt]: Mhm.

[cobra]: happens if they decide to kill that server where where the thing is stored? Where

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm, Yeah,

[cobra]: where

[hosty_matt]: Well,

[cobra]: does your thing go?

[hosty_matt]: um,

[hosty_matt]: so the thing with that is, Um,

[hosty_matt]: it does. it's got. Obviously it's got right. It's

[hosty_matt]: fucked. and and so, maybe maybe it's a way for me to download to my computer. I

[cobra]: Yeah, of course,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm, oh,

[hosty_matt]: have no idea. I didn't investigate. I really didn't spend that much time or

[hosty_matt]: money energy investing into

[ll_cool_c_est]: mhm,

[hosty_matt]: it further. Just because I don't. I can't pinpoint the value.

[cobra]: yeah, but but like if you download it, you are downloaded in the content

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm, Mhm,

[cobra]: right, but you're not downloading whatever it is that guarantees the uniqueness of

[cobra]: it, Cause the uniqueness of it

[cobra]: depends on whatever

[cobra]: you know, block chain system started.

[hosty_matt]: Sure

[cobra]: So then it's

[cobra]: It's like they saying, N f, T guarantees the ownership and uniqueness of this thing,

[cobra]: but it really doesn't

[hosty_matt]: what? That is? One of the interesting things and I won't spend too much time

[hosty_matt]: talk. talking out of a big. and some of us are supereeks. You go way too far

[hosty_matt]: into it, but

[cobra]: know what you about?

[hosty_matt]: you're right, The add ofity.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I got one with. I got one thing

[hosty_matt]: Let's you.

[ll_cool_c_est]: to say, If that's okay.

[hosty_matt]: Well, Okay, you go ahead and I'll finish my point.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I, so the fanish of point school

[hosty_matt]: Oh, okay, so I was saying, Is that much? Lose your ownm? Saying is with the n f

[hosty_matt]: Ts. The the value is not

[hosty_matt]: you. think of the artwork, piece of artwork again. There's evidence that the

[hosty_matt]: monoly say one and everybody uses the same sort of cataloging system in the art

[hosty_matt]: world. To say this, these things have value. but with n ts, the cataloging

[hosty_matt]: systems, Whoever stands up a cataloguing system is no centralized cataloc

[hosty_matt]: registry. So if your registry goes down if someone loses it, if it's Los,

[hosty_matt]: deleted or otherwise, then then who's to say your n f T version even matters And

[hosty_matt]: I think that's a piece of it that people aren't reticently thinking about it. Is

[hosty_matt]: the idea that I can buy my of T and I on the to Sh card and's this this company'

[hosty_matt]: is going to run the server and it can be there forever. I mean twenty years from

[hosty_matt]: now. They going to still be in that

[ll_cool_c_est]: H,

[hosty_matt]: business Thirty years from

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: now's. very it. I think there's value in. if t. I just don't think it's in in

[hosty_matt]: creating uniqueness out of

[hosty_matt]: something you can't guarantee Uniqu.

[cobra]: I' go for the La. Go, head. Christ.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I hear, I hear a lot about what you're saying and it is really interesting

[ll_cool_c_est]: for me. I think that the problem,

[ll_cool_c_est]: at least for me with Nf Ts is the environment and the context, And so

[cobra]: Yep.

[ll_cool_c_est]: if it's video games were talking about, Okay, Well

[hosty_matt]: That' huge.

[ll_cool_c_est]: that's real. That's a really difficultm for me to to cross, because

[ll_cool_c_est]: I mean, unless, unless, unless you as the the the player are hear are or

[ll_cool_c_est]: hardcore in a in Lesss environment. Let's like like a sandbox like fortnight

[ll_cool_c_est]: or other, you know, M or r, P. Gs. that have a a large enough community for

[ll_cool_c_est]: you to hold up your shiny n, f. T. Well,

[ll_cool_c_est]: what one? that's That's one sort of piece of the puzzle, too. What does that

[ll_cool_c_est]: n f t do? Is it? is it a

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: piece of artwork? Is it gear is? Is is. is it a stat boos? that's like

[ll_cool_c_est]: infinite. Like what is the purpose of the thing and that's just in games. But

[ll_cool_c_est]: then when we think about the metaverse Okay, Well, that sort of makes more

[ll_cool_c_est]: sense to me because a bunch of us will will inhabit those spaces. And whether

[ll_cool_c_est]: it's in

[ll_cool_c_est]: your, you know your digital house, or it's like I don't know an nf t pair of

[ll_cool_c_est]: jordans that are limited edition that like yourat, whoever will will have,

[ll_cool_c_est]: and it's limited. I can get that because there is more of a emotional

[ll_cool_c_est]: connection and the function is more tied to it, But I don't understand it in

[ll_cool_c_est]: its current, in this current iteration from from some of these game

[ll_cool_c_est]: companies, so we'll have to see. maybe it's just too in it infancy, and even

[ll_cool_c_est]: maybe some of them haven't figured it out.

[cobra]: so so the last thing I want to say about this time we can move on if you want, Ma.

[cobra]: but to me, Nf is an f. T. Like Has a concept is trying to do something that can be

[cobra]: done, which just guarantee uniqueness in a purely digital realm That there's no way

[cobra]: you can deliver that And and people are spending droves of money on something that

[cobra]: doesn't do what it needs to do, or we say does, and

[cobra]: this bubble is going to burst. It' going to be bad.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, I think we need to just be clear. N f Ts is a method by which you can um,

[hosty_matt]: sort of proveiqu right or

[hosty_matt]: ownership of a unique item. The technology behind N f T is saying that this

[cobra]: Yeah, yeah,

[hosty_matt]: person. this is the chain of ownership I think is valuable, but you need to

[hosty_matt]: apply to somewhere else where a sham of ownership is important. Maybe it's a

[hosty_matt]: contract or a license, or a sort of d to a house or something like that. There

[hosty_matt]: may be some more validity for something like that. But in terms of saying this

[hosty_matt]: piece of art is one of one. It fails because it's

[hosty_matt]: yeah. okay, that piece of arts one one, but everyone can get a copy of it and

[hosty_matt]: enjoy the same value You're getting out of it. Where' the unique value you're

[hosty_matt]: you're driving from?

[cobra]: yeah. why iss the value in having

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[cobra]: the the unique one? How

[hosty_matt]: y,

[cobra]: is it unique? Because you pay the three theorem for it and now you're poor. You know

[cobra]: what I

[hosty_matt]: yeah,

[cobra]: mean?

[hosty_matt]: listen, um. I, I think we're on the same uh side on the topic. I. I, you know

[hosty_matt]: that was that was pretty heavy. Think that' palalenser. have you got hearired of

[hosty_matt]: farting?

[ll_cool_c_est]: I do believe I do believe so

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: pray, pray tell pray

[hosty_matt]: Have you heard of the sound or the the? The The Cause

[cobra]: I. I heard the sound just like two minutes ago.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I am. I am intimately

[ll_cool_c_est]: familiar with. I am intimately familiar with fars.

[hosty_matt]: shots shots fired.

[hosty_matt]: Okay, so, um, Stephanie Matto, who is only claimed

[ll_cool_c_est]: drop your government.

[hosty_matt]: of fame was on Um with fucker, Um, her com to thing was, she was a a participant

[hosty_matt]: on Ninety Day Fiancee, At some point I have no context. I know

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes,

[hosty_matt]: the show. I'm not going to explain it. My wife watches it. It's not important

[hosty_matt]: here. What important is is after she was on the show. Um, she has gone through a

[hosty_matt]: series of uh, let's call them entrepreneurial adventures to earn money.

[cobra]: Endeavours.

[hosty_matt]: uh,

[ll_cool_c_est]: excursions.

[hosty_matt]: yep, uh. well, that's very close to excretions, and you know

[cobra]: and yeah, now you're You're bearing the lead here.

[hosty_matt]: I, yeah, listen. so so the story comes up, because Stephanie was uh, had an

[hosty_matt]: unusual business where she was farting into jars and

[hosty_matt]: stay with me here, folks, selling them for

[ll_cool_c_est]: y.

[hosty_matt]: what appears to be one thousand U. S dollars.

[ll_cool_c_est]: that's a good money.

[hosty_matt]: She sold

[hosty_matt]: about

[hosty_matt]: two hundred and sixty of them, I believe married two hundred of them. Sorry,

[hosty_matt]: about two hundred thousand dollars worth. Um. And and the reason why this made

[hosty_matt]: the news is isn't just because people are buying someone's fars four thousand

[hosty_matt]: dollars, but um.

[hosty_matt]: she was overdoing it. Um, and to the point where she was eating a very

[hosty_matt]: aggressive diet. Uh, who was plant based?

[cobra]: basically just eating burritos every day.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh,

[hosty_matt]: she had so many and sheed so much that she went to the hospital with a fucking

[hosty_matt]: stroke.

[cobra]: Was it a stroke?

[ll_cool_c_est]: talk about shooting the bed.

[hosty_matt]: Yes,

[cobra]: No, she thought it was a stroke. It was a heart attack.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh my god,

[hosty_matt]: Oh, my bad, Sorry, that's we. Pardon stroke. Let's get a right heart attack. not

[hosty_matt]: a stroke. Sorry, Hardt stroke

[ll_cool_c_est]: sorry

[hosty_matt]: foundation. my bad. on that one.

[ll_cool_c_est]: we care.

[cobra]: God,

[ll_cool_c_est]: That's something else.

[hosty_matt]: So that's that's something that happened.

[hosty_matt]: I think for me,

[hosty_matt]: good for her for for good for you, get your money. It's an honesty. Pe.

[ll_cool_c_est]: she's got. you know. she could pay the medical bills now,

[hosty_matt]: people buy those. At least you're getting something. I know what you're getting.

[hosty_matt]: You got to jar someone's

[hosty_matt]: farts, That is better than an n. f, t. so kudo see you,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yp, Yep,

[ll_cool_c_est]: she fully.

[hosty_matt]: serves and madames,

[ll_cool_c_est]: she fully tapped into that niche market you guys have. Have you ever heard of

[ll_cool_c_est]: like the like The Mi? I don't know if it. Well, apparently it's real, the

[ll_cool_c_est]: midst of like

[ll_cool_c_est]: worn panties and undergarments and stuff shipped.

[cobra]: those

[hosty_matt]: Oh, that's that's the.

[cobra]: are not mas at all, my friend.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Well. I. I used to think that until a few years ago and a friend of mine was

[ll_cool_c_est]: like Notzrio

[ll_cool_c_est]: and she told stories.

[hosty_matt]: so. so. Yeah,

[cobra]: Well, Baldinph was selling bath water.

[hosty_matt]: y,

[cobra]: Her bathw. Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: at least that's a a renewable resource That won't give you a a stroke or a heart

[hosty_matt]: attack,

[hosty_matt]: But um, just just like why people fucked up the world. Um, dudes are creepy

[cobra]: yeah,

[cobra]: I don'. There's so much that is

[cobra]: the what. ▁quota or ▁quotent

[ll_cool_c_est]: Co's have an aneurysm

[cobra]: of this thing is insane. Like everything about the headline is like.

[cobra]: here's a woman who used to sell fifty

[cobra]: jars

[cobra]: a week with her

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[cobra]: farts by a thousand dollars. Each ended up in the hospital because she was fighting.

[cobra]: She was eating badly, so she could find more like this Is. this is one for the ages.

[cobra]: Honestly,

[cobra]: I don't understand.

[ll_cool_c_est]: But but like one, two, two of my biggest questions. One who? why did she get

[ll_cool_c_est]: help? Why she just gave more asses in the seats, so to speak, And like whos?

[ll_cool_c_est]: who's to say that? it's like check it

[cobra]: Are you wait? Are you

[cobra]: suggesting that she counterfeit her own,

[ll_cool_c_est]: suggest

[cobra]: sir, That will not stand

[ll_cool_c_est]: I don't know this woman. I don't know this woman she could. Why didn't she?

[hosty_matt]: for a thousand dollars a jar. I want the original,

[cobra]: original unuler?

[ll_cool_c_est]: You'd never know

[hosty_matt]: wouldn't I? What? if I amm a repe customer,

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: what if she but y, the human body is a wonderland. How are you supposed to

[ll_cool_c_est]: what if she but y, the human body is a wonderland. How are you supposed to

[ll_cool_c_est]: know how Ab how how a burrito The same berrito from Chpolle, was digested and

[ll_cool_c_est]: know how Ab how how a burrito The same berrito from Chpolle, was digested and

[ll_cool_c_est]: excreted this week versus next week? So many factors.

[ll_cool_c_est]: excreted this week versus next week? So many factors.

[hosty_matt]: Chris, if I'm finding jarred farts, I

[hosty_matt]: can tell I know.

[cobra]: I know, I know. Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: So you think she's got like a ▁zeneesk for for disgruntled fart customers,

[hosty_matt]: Yes,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Y, so that

[cobra]: no, dude.

[ll_cool_c_est]: my second question real quickick. My second question then is wh, what is her

[ll_cool_c_est]: infrastructure like like I in the photo when I clicked on like a click on it,

[ll_cool_c_est]: It like it looks almost artisanal. That cork looks legit. Does she take like

[ll_cool_c_est]: the regular glass or like? Does she have a system? That's all.

[cobra]: Oh, dude,

[cobra]: first of all, you know, now that you know by reading is you know that there is

[cobra]: somewhere out there a far familiate. First of all,

[cobra]: definitely

[cobra]: the bouquet is amazing. The you know,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah,

[cobra]: second of all, Yeah, dude, I bet you, she has some like custom made funundel. that

[cobra]: she sticks you know around the cheeks

[ll_cool_c_est]: ono, the darrier. er. Yes,

[cobra]: and and then she farted into the thing. and like there is like a period of time that

[cobra]: you can cork to maximize far molecules inside there.

[ll_cool_c_est]: man, I would not be one of there. I would not be one. I would not want to be

[ll_cool_c_est]: there during phase one of her of her setu. she said, Oh, push, too.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Got a

[cobra]: Well,

[ll_cool_c_est]: youag

[cobra]: this, this one's going to be more expensive cause now there's there's matter.

[ll_cool_c_est]: correct, and then like you, B, can you mentine that creepy sailia on the

[ll_cool_c_est]: other like? Oh,

[ll_cool_c_est]: I don't know. Should I open it,

[ll_cool_c_est]: dear? I should, I

[cobra]: Yeah, No, this is like

[ll_cool_c_est]: shall,

[cobra]: collecting mint action figures where you don't know it.

[ll_cool_c_est]: exactly.

[cobra]: just collect.

[hosty_matt]: okay, so I,

[cobra]: God.

[hosty_matt]: I miss this the first time I read it be cause it's below a bunch of

[hosty_matt]: advertisements, but I think the way to end this, uh newsicle. I just I just want

[hosty_matt]: to let you know that she retired from the jar

[ll_cool_c_est]: No.

[hosty_matt]: business, so those are collectors. but don't worry if you still want to get down

[hosty_matt]: on this.

[hosty_matt]: the Artle states, her clients will no longer be able to own the physical jar of

[hosty_matt]: Stephanie Gas,

[cobra]: No,

[hosty_matt]: but they will be able to

[cobra]: no,

[hosty_matt]: purchase them as digital artworks on the block chain.

[cobra]: notsom.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Are you serious?

[ll_cool_c_est]: Are you serious?

[hosty_matt]: That's what the article says.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Holy

[cobra]: can someone stop the world?

[ll_cool_c_est]: shej?

[cobra]: I want to get out. Seriously.

[cobra]: I want to get out. Seriously.

[cobra]: I want to get out. Seriously.

[cobra]: I want to get out. Seriously.

[hosty_matt]: She don't change the game,

[ll_cool_c_est]: She could che yo

[ll_cool_c_est]: Bessels can learn so much,

[hosty_matt]: son,

[ll_cool_c_est]: my God,

[cobra]: I mean,

[hosty_matt]: so that' that's the whole thing.

[cobra]: he's already an assle, So faring is the next thing

[ll_cool_c_est]: but there she unlocked. She unlocked the exteer. my friend,

[cobra]: Bro. imagine. imagine. like in a normal conversation where you say Oh, you know, the

[cobra]: latest n f T I bought was from the picture of a jar of fars, Like

[hosty_matt]: Honestly, Why is that any less valuable than anything else is being slt as an f.

[hosty_matt]: T.

[cobra]: it's It's not

[hosty_matt]: Go

[cobra]: but, but like I don't know. Imagine

[hosty_matt]: there you go.

[cobra]: going back. Okay, I'm going to say, Imagine going back in to the past, not a hundred

[cobra]: years, ten years, and then trying to tell this to anybody ten years ago'. like Oh,

[cobra]: you know, someone's B.

[cobra]: A picture like the

[cobra]: certificate of

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[cobra]: authenticity of a picture of a jar of Fs, and and paid three hundred thousand dollars

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[cobra]: for it, People would laugh you out of existence.

[ll_cool_c_est]: They would throw

[hosty_matt]: I means

[ll_cool_c_est]: you into the insane asylum and throw away the key.

[hosty_matt]: to be fair. she's probably going to sell them for a a thousand.

[cobra]: You don't know. this is an open market, my friend.

[ll_cool_c_est]: She must, some kind of savant, because she both broke the old and then

[ll_cool_c_est]: abandoned it. All she needs to do. She need to do like, If she still wanted

[ll_cool_c_est]: to keep Raing, That money

[ll_cool_c_est]: is de generate a far farm. That was the dramatic pas.

[hosty_matt]: So If this, we're going to the matrix with this and know I' moving on. I don't.

[hosty_matt]: even. I'm sorry. that was my fault. We're segu

[ll_cool_c_est]: It's not your fault, it. not. this is a safe space.

[hosty_matt]: next with the next topic. Um, this is actually a genuine. Have you heard of?

[hosty_matt]: Have you guys heard of the Aszmod group

[ll_cool_c_est]: My first

[cobra]: No,

[ll_cool_c_est]: time hearing about it.

[hosty_matt]: A, S. m, o d, E, E. too easy. At the end. I was' not aware of them either, But

[hosty_matt]: there's this article on Polygon that talks with this group is for sale, And it

[hosty_matt]: turns out they are one of the biggest publisher and publishers and distributors

[hosty_matt]: of board games in the world, Um. and they'ra for sale at the low low price of

[hosty_matt]: Uh, three point one billion dollars.

[hosty_matt]: Um,

[cobra]: excuse me, What billion would A be

[cobra]: excuse me, What billion would A be

[hosty_matt]: yeah,

[cobra]: Jesus?

[hosty_matt]: yeah,

[cobra]: What do they own Now? I want to see this.

[hosty_matt]: well, yeah. So what do they own? Great question? Um, they bought companies that

[hosty_matt]: include ▁zman games who makes pandemic, Uh, fancy flight games, which is

[hosty_matt]: toscentdligion to the dark days of Wonder. who makes Ticket to Ride and Kan

[hosty_matt]: studio which settlers of Kta.

[cobra]: Holy crap.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, so

[cobra]: okay,

[hosty_matt]: kind of a big deal. Um,

[cobra]: yeah,

[hosty_matt]: so embracer who's buying them? Apparently Embracer Group, So Asthmoe Group is

[hosty_matt]: being bought by Embracer Group. I'm sure there's so jokeing there. I just don't

[hosty_matt]: have the time to bother. Um,

[cobra]: embrace it

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes,

[hosty_matt]: fucky,

[hosty_matt]: you're a monster. A're a monster. Um.

[hosty_matt]: they have. Excuse me, your Bris Group has a bunch of uh, existing studios for

[hosty_matt]: video games. K, ▁q Nordic, which makes well, this article say, claim Starksiders

[hosty_matt]: is the biggest game. Deep Silver to Saints Row Coffee Stain, which is Valheim

[hosty_matt]: and Uh, Saper Interactive, which is making Space Marine too well,

[cobra]: and gearbx. Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: Actually, Gearbox. Yeah, so so two big deals in separate spaces becoming one

[hosty_matt]: bigger deal that still no one will know about It feels like these companies

[hosty_matt]: are like Shadow Puppet Counsils,

[cobra]: yeah, I was going

[cobra]: to say this is. this is one of those where it's like a huge deal to like the

[hosty_matt]: running writing these companies.

[cobra]: seventeen people in the world that know about it and all of us are like who.

[ll_cool_c_est]: where did you come from?

[hosty_matt]: Yeahcause, like the thing to me is like Like you, you this company own. You

[hosty_matt]: know, Sorry Embracer owns Uh, Gearbox. And and but they get the money from

[hosty_matt]: Gearbox, but they can get the distance from Uh. Randy Pittsford, being a

[hosty_matt]: complete sociopath,

[cobra]: Yeah, Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Chess moves, chess Boves.

[cobra]: well, yeah, that's I would say that that'. That's the the business model of a lot of

[cobra]: like This is obviously not as well executed as as what whatever embracer did. But

[cobra]: like why do you think Facebk change their name right'? like? Oh, let's get away from

[cobra]: all that Che. We just matter. we're not faasable. Facebook is just the product like

[ll_cool_c_est]: That wasn't mean. that was my evil twin brother

[cobra]: for you.

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[cobra]: Mitch. ▁zukaberger,

[hosty_matt]: my humanon brother Mitch,

[cobra]: yeah,

[hosty_matt]: I mean brother Mitch.

[ll_cool_c_est]: separated at birth. He kidnapped me a bla. Anyway,

[cobra]: yeah,

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, just just know that, Um,

[cobra]: that's crazy.

[hosty_matt]: rich, the rich are getting richer.

[hosty_matt]: And

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: and you're probably not unless you're the rich

[ll_cool_c_est]: the lesson. The real lesson is to invest in Nf Ts from Aszmodi.

[cobra]: no, shut up. shut up.

[cobra]: I going to say to invest in an n f T from Stephanie. motto.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Well that too

[hosty_matt]: mean, maybe

[ll_cool_c_est]: look darkbb. darkbb was still, Can folks.

[cobra]: Oh, gross, dark wabbit gros.

[hosty_matt]: gross,

[hosty_matt]: so listen, we move on. Have

[cobra]: Yes, please

[hosty_matt]: you guys heard of?

[hosty_matt]: Uh? how should I start this

[hosty_matt]: dumble door?

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes,

[cobra]: his

[hosty_matt]: So

[ll_cool_c_est]: okay,

[cobra]: dad, his dad whizard from Lor the ring.

[cobra]: dad, his dad whizard from Lor the ring.

[hosty_matt]: fuck you is doubled or okay? Um,

[ll_cool_c_est]: dubled, do the gy, doubled door, The flamboantt dumble door and the amazing

[ll_cool_c_est]: technicalor wizard, want

[hosty_matt]: are are we

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: doneu? So

[hosty_matt]: doneu? So

[ll_cool_c_est]: started

[hosty_matt]: no, all you listeners out there. This is not anything to do with the twentieth

[hosty_matt]: anniversary episode. Uh, covering the movies that were made and all of Uh, Harry

[hosty_matt]: Potter Universe. We' are talking about the much more important and impressive

[hosty_matt]: series.

[hosty_matt]: Uh, Fantastic Beasts,

[hosty_matt]: The Secret of her secrets, Multiple secrets of a Dumble door, A trailer was a

[hosty_matt]: trailer, dropped. The movieb's coming in A in April fifteenth, which, honestly,

[hosty_matt]: I had no idea this is happening. Um, that seems really soon. Um,

[cobra]: is that Jude Law?

[hosty_matt]: yeah, Yeah, you haven't watched the great. You don't watch any of the fantastic

[hosty_matt]: Piacece movies? Have you?

[cobra]: No, on purpose, I have not.

[ll_cool_c_est]: well

[hosty_matt]: Well, that's probably a good plan.

[ll_cool_c_est]: now now it's open now. it's now.

[ll_cool_c_est]: They've indicated that its full Jude lies Dumbled Door Look is looking

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: like a snack, Dumbled door snack.

[hosty_matt]: So so here's the thing they did right with these movies. Dudela,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[cobra]: Wow.

[hosty_matt]: That's about all I got. I know. like Eddy, Red Maine,

[cobra]: I was going to say

[hosty_matt]: I just think the St.

[ll_cool_c_est]: true,

[hosty_matt]: The the story,

[cobra]: remain

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[cobra]: is okay.

[hosty_matt]: the story is up to up to this movie, The Secres of Thembledor, and what we see

[hosty_matt]: in the trailer. The story is fucking stupid.

[hosty_matt]: I, It's so dumb

[hosty_matt]: and I have to. I spoilers. If you haven't watched the first two movies, He, That

[hosty_matt]: was a choice you made. So whatever

[hosty_matt]: like, they go to the point where uh, it turns out that Nghini, the snake that Uh

[hosty_matt]: Valemor has, that is one of the horse cruxes, was actually a human being at one

[hosty_matt]: point, and she has some curse that she eventually transformed is from a human

[hosty_matt]: into a snake. So that's the thing

[ll_cool_c_est]: What that happened in the fucky? I saw the first one or was there a sequel?

[hosty_matt]: that was in the second one. Yeah, you're you're movie behind. Yeah, yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: I missed the second one. Okay, thank goodness for I was like What the fuck?

[ll_cool_c_est]: and

[cobra]: This. This is why I haven't

[cobra]: watched any of these movies because my head canon is much better than that.

[ll_cool_c_est]: the first one was kind of fun.

[hosty_matt]: it's it is the classic trope of when you do a prequel, you get trapped up in the

[hosty_matt]: idea of making everything that happened in the movies have a history right. It's

[hosty_matt]: the soloness

[cobra]: Yeah, yeah,

[hosty_matt]: of Han Solo. Solo wasn't a bad movie. but they tried too hard to make everything

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[hosty_matt]: important for Hon Solo And that's the

[cobra]: um,

[hosty_matt]: same thing Ha has happened in these movies.

[cobra]: Solo was a bad movie. Was just made worse by what you said, but go on

[hosty_matt]: It was. it was fine.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I, I both agree with you, but fifty points to slithered,

[hosty_matt]: What? like? What do you guys think about this trailer? Are you going to watch

[hosty_matt]: this movie?

[ll_cool_c_est]: I am. I actually care about it now like the second one was like.

[ll_cool_c_est]: It was so passle for me, but now I give enough of a shit for me to actually

[ll_cool_c_est]: want to see what they're going to do. I want to see what they' stitched

[ll_cool_c_est]: together for this one. Um,

[ll_cool_c_est]: I agree that like the story didn't really feel like it had enough weight,

[ll_cool_c_est]: because after the first one I didn't know if they were continue. I had no

[ll_cool_c_est]: idea whatsoever. but now now that Grinle halls are recast with Mads Mcelson,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Uh, if I'm

[ll_cool_c_est]: pronouncing thank you. Um, I care about that. I like that and

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, Mad nicholson.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Um, and Jude Law, so it's I feel like it's going to be another head to head

[ll_cool_c_est]: at at some point. But then again, Ezra Miller has like the creepy, the

[ll_cool_c_est]: creepy. Um,

[ll_cool_c_est]: oh,

[hosty_matt]: creeerion

[ll_cool_c_est]: oh, hererioero Ezra Miller in this series is essentially Crispin Grove Glover

[ll_cool_c_est]: from From Charlie's Angels Wi, With magic, I'm here for that

[hosty_matt]: y,

[ll_cool_c_est]: So now I'm

[cobra]: I was

[ll_cool_c_est]: I, I'm into that

[ll_cool_c_est]: that was a deep

[cobra]: so okay so now

[ll_cool_c_est]: deep cut,

[cobra]: I have.

[hosty_matt]: a super deup cat.

[cobra]: I have. I have.

[hosty_matt]: I got my arm cut off. How deep that cut was.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Sy Ginzu knife,

[cobra]: I. I now have very mixed feelings about this, so first of all, I haven't watched the

[cobra]: trailer. I will,

[cobra]: but

[cobra]: I haven't.

[hosty_matt]: Why are you even on this show? If you're not going to keep up with the news,

[cobra]: I don't. I don't give a shit about Fantastic Beast. I'm sorry. I just don't.

[hosty_matt]: but you got to comment on it anyway. this is Pe. Luciana.

[cobra]: Yeah, So you? So you were like

[ll_cool_c_est]: Go ra, press play and put it on Mute Press. Play a butn it on you and then go

[ll_cool_c_est]: in

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[cobra]: you guys were like

[hosty_matt]: just comment as as you watch it.

[cobra]: you, Gu it now. I'm

[ll_cool_c_est]: live reacted.

[cobra]: not going to watch it now, but you got you guys were like. Um, you know, jud law is

[cobra]: probably the best thing that came out of of Fantastic beast, which is a a good

[cobra]: endorsement of it. But then you said the words Ezra Miller

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yo.

[cobra]: and Creepy

[ll_cool_c_est]: yes,

[cobra]: in the same

[ll_cool_c_est]: yes,

[cobra]: sentence, and I'm like I

[cobra]: can't see

[ll_cool_c_est]: yes, you can.

[cobra]: him being creepy at all.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh

[hosty_matt]: He does a great job. He' really good.

[ll_cool_c_est]: my God, you're missing out you and I and

[cobra]: Okay,

[ll_cool_c_est]: to give him credit the first time I ever saw Ezra Miller, it was in a really

[ll_cool_c_est]: disturbing movie called We need to talk about Kevin Ezer. Miller, hass got

[ll_cool_c_est]: more creep muscle than you than you. give him credit for it was a really good

[ll_cool_c_est]: movie. Um,

[cobra]: I

[ll_cool_c_est]: yeah,

[cobra]: believe you

[ll_cool_c_est]: Tilda Swinton,

[cobra]: specifically, Because

[cobra]: or he out, creep to the swind.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yup, she was she. Play

[cobra]: Da.

[ll_cool_c_est]: she play?

[cobra]: Wow,

[ll_cool_c_est]: She played his mother.

[cobra]: Okay,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes,

[cobra]: I don't have. I don't have the mental time to do with that statement

[ll_cool_c_est]: I w my face

[cobra]: right now. What I was going to say is I,

[cobra]: You know, the first time I ever saw Crispin Blover was as

[cobra]: Marfly's dad. obviously,

[cobra]: but then watching American Gods and seeing him as Loky and it's like

[cobra]: focking hell

[cobra]: that guys creepy, s fuck. and I would not have given them cre that credit, so I will

[cobra]: believe you that Israbeella can pull off Creepy so ill. I don't know. I'll watch the

[cobra]: trailer and nowunce, maybe I'll watch the movie when it comes into one of the

[cobra]: streaming things. Probably

[ll_cool_c_est]: first. Turn it on and mute it as we could at the gon disp

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: sprinkling your cobery,

[cobra]: Fx. I, fine.

[hosty_matt]: well, we're We're past it now if I'm honest. Um, the one thing I say is I really

[hosty_matt]: appreciate Um for the recasting of Uh Johnny De to Mad Miicholson. I think

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[hosty_matt]: Johnny Tepps problems aside and the reasons why he's recast makes sense. But

[hosty_matt]: aside from that,

[hosty_matt]: Johnny Depp

[hosty_matt]: is' that a great actor. he.

[cobra]: he's very limited.

[hosty_matt]: He's good, but he's limited and I think Mad Nicholson is a much better actor for

[hosty_matt]: this role. I think he's going to bring real gravitas to because we' basically

[hosty_matt]: comulminating the story of of how Dumble Door and Grenda Waal like were into

[hosty_matt]: each other, and they fought and how he got imprisoned. That that is in the Harry

[hosty_matt]: Potter stories, and I think Mathemical Anden Jude Law on screen doing that like

[hosty_matt]: that is going to be like oozing sexual tension. And, and just like the power of

[hosty_matt]: those two, the gravitas of both actors, like if it was Ju Judla versus John, Je

[hosty_matt]: youd love a crush, Johnny Depp. But I, mad Miichlesson can stand up to

[ll_cool_c_est]: Definitely

[hosty_matt]: that. And so that's I'm really excited to see how that plays up.

[ll_cool_c_est]: those dudes have cohoones and

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Johnny. Yeah, good actor. it just wouldn't be. It wouldn't be a fair fight.

[ll_cool_c_est]: It wouldn't be a a worthy enough match up.

[hosty_matt]: you can't see thising the trailer and it's like he smelled one of that

[hosty_matt]: women's fars in her jars. That's the face. He'

[ll_cool_c_est]: No, it looks like Luciano. No, Luciano has started a side hustle, he is. He

[hosty_matt]: makingt be

[hosty_matt]: makingt be

[hosty_matt]: makingt be

[hosty_matt]: makingt be

[hosty_matt]: makingt be

[hosty_matt]: makingt be

[ll_cool_c_est]: is guarantees gearing up his own fart businesss, like

[cobra]: I'm the one selling part now.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I could buy Hacke by myself, four Ps fives, and recouped that with my money.

[cobra]: Okay, so I'm not going to finish watching this now, and I should again. But like I'm

[cobra]: not like Okay. So what? It was funny, Because as you were talking about Mat

[cobra]: Nicholson, and and Judla they were showing, and Mad Nicholson was like doing his

[cobra]: villain stick, which is very good at

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[cobra]: that, Like that dynamic between the two of them. From what I saw in the trailer, that

[cobra]: dynamic is going to do a lot of heavy lifting if this thing is going to be good.

[cobra]: If if the characters are well written, it might be fun to watch just just to see them

[cobra]: have fun like. just

[cobra]: probably. Yeah, I don't know this. this is weird.

[ll_cool_c_est]: extra spiler a muggle gets gets a magic wind.

[cobra]: Okay. so what they do? pick your teeth?

[hosty_matt]: Ext

[hosty_matt]: era. Miller's character isled do's long los brother.

[ll_cool_c_est]: His name

[cobra]: You joking

[ll_cool_c_est]: in the movie is Marg ▁zuckerberg.

[cobra]: mich,

[hosty_matt]: What I said is true. Chris said might not be true. Moving on. We' going to use

[hosty_matt]: that sweet Manif reference with

[hosty_matt]: Mich and

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[hosty_matt]: Mark to segu into our next topic. He all heard about Disney,

[hosty_matt]: A tiny Tiny, just struggling along.

[cobra]: I mean, don't get there.

[ll_cool_c_est]: One day,

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, one day, so Disney wants to create its own mentaivese.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: so they are going to um.

[hosty_matt]: I guess connect their physical and digital worlds,

[hosty_matt]: Uh to into one big thing. So when I read this article, the feeling I get is

[hosty_matt]: Um,

[hosty_matt]: like Smash Brothers, basically

[ll_cool_c_est]: in what way, Smash Brothers. What do you mean

[hosty_matt]: well, like Smash Brothers brings in not just characters from Nintendo, but

[hosty_matt]: they've pulled in other licensed Ip characters and they'll exist in the Smash

[hosty_matt]: Brothers universe. And that's what this feels like. Is they're just going to say

[hosty_matt]: that in the Metaverse Star Wars and Marvel exist together and are connected.

[cobra]: I think you. you mean Kingdom Hearts, Then,

[hosty_matt]: They've already done it. Same sort

[hosty_matt]: of deal out right,

[ll_cool_c_est]: they know what they were doing?

[cobra]: yeah,

[hosty_matt]: Um.

[hosty_matt]: and so

[hosty_matt]: you know, looks like they're doing some V r. work with this. Um. So they've

[hosty_matt]: created Um

[hosty_matt]: animation tools that let them create stuff in Vi r. Um. They're already sort of

[hosty_matt]: working on stuff. Um to to harness this, There are a couple things they are

[hosty_matt]: doing Ta Star Wars Tales from Glaxy's Edge and Vader im Moortal, Uh, were both

[hosty_matt]: made for the Acist, ▁quest, um, and Ands, During Uh, a corporate call, Uh, Bob

[hosty_matt]: Chapic didn see of Disney was talking about. They have this long track record

[hosty_matt]: being early adopter, blah, blah, blah, and they're going to do a bunch of shit.

[cobra]: I'm more concerned about the names that they're giving today their Aar tool stuff.

[cobra]: There is a motion stick. There is a force jacket

[cobra]: which sounds very close to like a stray jacket.

[hosty_matt]: I think I think a sharay jacket is a for jacket,

[ll_cool_c_est]: The

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: like Okay,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Disney, Me ofide, Have any you seen those? Um, those sound vests, Um,

[hosty_matt]: so I just

[cobra]: no.

[hosty_matt]: want to check in here you. You're throwing aside the news article we're talking

[hosty_matt]: about. to talk about your own thing.

[ll_cool_c_est]: no, no, No, it's related.

[ll_cool_c_est]: It's not my. I.

[hosty_matt]: Okay, okay, bring it back. then I have not heard about that.

[ll_cool_c_est]: that's I'm so sorry. I wasn't trying to derail, but I'm saying like it's not

[ll_cool_c_est]: that far off because I, I've seen ads for um vests that have um, uh,

[ll_cool_c_est]: vibrators that that sync with music explosions, et cetera et Ctera, And

[ll_cool_c_est]: apparently it's supposed to be it like, based on the videos and looks of the

[ll_cool_c_est]: demos, it's supposed to be really immersive. So

[ll_cool_c_est]: having seen some of those demos, I don't feel like it's that far so if you

[ll_cool_c_est]: were to throw on some sort of, I don't know some sort of gear and then going

[ll_cool_c_est]: into like, I don't. I don't know like the possibilities seem pretty

[ll_cool_c_est]: pretty endless. But then again, who's to

[cobra]: yeah, I

[ll_cool_c_est]: say like What if it'? What if it's too much you know?

[cobra]: let me let me just add a word or two words that we were missing in

[ll_cool_c_est]: Go for it

[cobra]: what you said. The possibilities

[cobra]: for porn are endless.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Disneyborn. I'm I'm still on topic

[cobra]: No,

[cobra]: just this.

[hosty_matt]: I don't think we're on topic anymore.

[cobra]: Yeah, No, I was just reading about the forest jacket that I mention that they are

[cobra]: going to use as part of this thing

[hosty_matt]: Mhm,

[cobra]: and it has, like they just throw this terms a pneumaticly actuated vibrtor And then

[hosty_matt]: Jesus,

[cobra]: they have a motion stick. Come on, like how long is is a person supposed to go

[cobra]: without making a lewd remark?

[ll_cool_c_est]: as long as

[hosty_matt]: yeah, they

[ll_cool_c_est]: you can, my friend.

[cobra]: Yeah, that's not very long.

[cobra]: This a virtual skin thing?

[hosty_matt]: isn't emotion sick. Isn't sorry? Isn't a motion? just the the diildos that

[hosty_matt]: Playstation have when they

[cobra]: guess

[ll_cool_c_est]: Which ones?

[hosty_matt]: have their their uh mo playsation have, like they like sticks with little light

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh, those the Dix sticks.

[hosty_matt]: bulls on them For like their. Yeah, for Um,

[cobra]: oh, the ice cream, the lighting ice cream? Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: All right, You make so nice. Yeah, but like when they were doing there, Like

[hosty_matt]: what the hell was it called the Um.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I don't remember what it was called, but I I know, which you mean,

[hosty_matt]: The Connect competitor

[ll_cool_c_est]: Connect had one

[hosty_matt]: anyways,

[ll_cool_c_est]: like ▁xpx, type one.

[hosty_matt]: my

[cobra]: no, no it.

[hosty_matt]: well, Microsoft had to connect and they connect like watched you and you can see

[hosty_matt]: your

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes, it could

[hosty_matt]: hand motions. But Sony's technology wasn't as good as you needed to hold. Uh

[hosty_matt]: dixs with lights on them to, so they could follow you anyways. That's what.

[hosty_matt]: That's what the motion stick sounds like to me.

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: man,

[hosty_matt]: Um,

[hosty_matt]: overall,

[hosty_matt]: I'm C like. I want to be possibsle, the menverse, but part of the thing what the

[hosty_matt]: Men ofverse is is that.

[cobra]: Playstation movement,

[hosty_matt]: Oh, thank you. What do? I forgot it? Um, I want to be. I want to be positive

[hosty_matt]: with men of verses, but the problem is is that in order to have a truly existing

[hosty_matt]: metaverse, everybody has to be equally connected to the meta verse. There can't

[hosty_matt]: be any barriers to entry, or like you know, ability to to to control that sort

[hosty_matt]: of entry point by different companies, or

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: keep you know. Disneys. Disney's me ofvererse, If this is unvers, isn't go

[hosty_matt]: connect to Facebook'smentverse it's not a mevererse. It's just your own pocket

[hosty_matt]: of things.

[cobra]: yeah, yeah, it's it's a. at least from what you know, say what you will about what's

[cobra]: his name? Uh, Marcuszuckberg whatever, Um, Mitchell, ma, Maxzukerberg that's his

[cobra]: name.

[hosty_matt]: Fuck, you,

[ll_cool_c_est]: is it Max,

[hosty_matt]: do not. do not drag my name into it. That's better.

[cobra]: Oh, max, Max, Yeah, now at least the way they was explaining it felt like he had a

[cobra]: concept sort of sound in his mind as you know, robots do normally. but like this it's

[cobra]: like you can't have your own made of vers. This is like having your own internet. You

[cobra]: like. It doesn't

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[cobra]: make any sense

[ll_cool_c_est]: But

[cobra]: like

[ll_cool_c_est]: maybe in five

[hosty_matt]: yeah, we're going to make an.

[cobra]: it has to be everything together. Otherwise it's not

[ll_cool_c_est]: averse,

[cobra]: a matter of verse. Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: we're going. It's like saying we, I have the internet, but all it is was a B, B,

[hosty_matt]: S,

[hosty_matt]: or like

[cobra]: yeah,

[hosty_matt]: a a bulletin board. I signed in Do. specifically. That's that's the

[cobra]: yeah,

[hosty_matt]: deepest of old cuts. For me. Also going to move on from my

[hosty_matt]: nonsense. There was too much

[ll_cool_c_est]: I feel like

[cobra]: no, but it's it's you right. Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: they' too. So I agree with that with and I'm going to Yes, and it.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I agree that they that they that the versus should be interconnected. I. It's

[ll_cool_c_est]: also like a tech, like a tech race, too. right. So

[ll_cool_c_est]: but at the same time

[cobra]: y,

[ll_cool_c_est]: it's like who's going to pull it off the best the fastest. Sure,

[cobra]: but that's that's the thing you can't. It's not about pulling it off on your own.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[cobra]: It's about who like this is like a, a, like a unique, or like a global thing that you

[hosty_matt]: y.

[cobra]: can maybe have more or less control over. but you can't have your own

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah,

[cobra]: because it doesn't make any sense. Right

[ll_cool_c_est]: but okay,

[cobra]: what you want to see. Something like Ready Player One where you have

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[cobra]: oasis in something similar to that. Like you can have companies having you know,

[cobra]: ownership or control or influence, or whatever you

[ll_cool_c_est]: continents, right, part parts, all integr,

[cobra]: want to call it over a part of it right, but it like it's not like. Oh, this is my

[cobra]: Oas as well. fuck you with your way. Who gives us shit right?

[hosty_matt]: It sounds like you're describing how the internet works.

[cobra]: Yeah, I mean,

[ll_cool_c_est]: but this is supposed to be Internet. three point O. You know, so it's like,

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: But like the The

[cobra]: Hm, Yeah, so nobody can own it. Disney cannot have its own metaverse. You can add to

[cobra]: the existing metal their own ship, and

[hosty_matt]: yes,

[cobra]: then you have to buy or pay them, or n f t with them whatever to give, able to get

[cobra]: into it. But it's not They can't have it like it's own cloth system, Is what I'm

[ll_cool_c_est]: I hear you and so for me the problem is the language, not you. but I think

[cobra]: saying.

[ll_cool_c_est]: it's the language on the overall landscape. When I read these articles, it

[ll_cool_c_est]: sounds like every company is trying to build their own to stand on top like

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: King of the Hill, but Ft, that cause I

[hosty_matt]: y.

[ll_cool_c_est]: agree with you, like further together, but they all want to make their money.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Period. But then my second thought. My second thought is like, similar to how

[ll_cool_c_est]: how we have theme parks. Amusement parks. You go to Wonderland, Six Flags

[ll_cool_c_est]: Wherever,

[ll_cool_c_est]: If Disney, if Disney's looking

[ll_cool_c_est]: to to pioneer what the theme park experience would be like using using

[ll_cool_c_est]: Metaverse technology, I guess in a way Th,

[cobra]: that's fine. Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: that makes sense, and I guess in a, my assumption is that they're going to

[ll_cool_c_est]: try and make it so make it accessible so people can tap into it from home

[ll_cool_c_est]: because of pandemic reasons and future reasons. Why can't we bring the Disney

[ll_cool_c_est]: experience everywhere, and and, and in that sense that sounds pretty cool.

[ll_cool_c_est]: The question is

[hosty_matt]: yes,

[ll_cool_c_est]: how

[ll_cool_c_est]: how and how how soon how legit. How valuable will that experience be? I don't

[ll_cool_c_est]: know

[cobra]: and how connective will it be to the actual me ofs

[ll_cool_c_est]: right.

[cobra]: be?

[cobra]: you can't this? is it almost like you? You're right. It's a language problem and

[cobra]: they're using it wrong. It is almost like saying

[cobra]: I, I'm going to open a theme park

[cobra]: in the world that exists versus I'm going to create my own world and it's going to be

[cobra]: just an amusement park.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I've got it go

[cobra]: And like what you know,

[ll_cool_c_est]: that I can. I can. I can add ont it with you things. It's the Digital twin

[ll_cool_c_est]: aspect. I think that's what they're going to do. Um, if I don't know how

[ll_cool_c_est]: familiar you guys are with it, but essentially it is what it is they will.

[ll_cool_c_est]: They may very well just try to build a copy of Disneyland into the metaphse,

[ll_cool_c_est]: and then hopefully if it sinks up,

[cobra]: That's not a matter ofverse. That's part

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm not. I'm not trying to correct you. I'm just saying they would. I think

[cobra]: of the matterse'sine

[ll_cool_c_est]: they may try to build a twin that people would access somehow.

[ll_cool_c_est]: That's my guess.

[hosty_matt]: yeah, I think the reality on this one is the word metavers, is people are making

[hosty_matt]: it be whatever they want to be, and and

[cobra]: Yes,

[hosty_matt]: the true me ofs is one universe wherely exist, but everyone is ching it as my

[hosty_matt]: verse and that that's where the concept will fail if it actually is a My Disney.

[hosty_matt]: My me,

[hosty_matt]: fucky faceb, For making me say that

[cobra]: and you can have multiples then, which is then a matter metaverse where Ma can be in.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I hope that doesn't happen, Because then what would you like? I'm going to

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mm.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm going to end three.

[cobra]: Yeah, no, no,

[hosty_matt]: three Ams already taken, so don't go there.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I can't wait for for me to fuck that up. And like we decided to brand it

[ll_cool_c_est]: through, Am looking out, and their logo is like a bare faceac, rip off of

[ll_cool_c_est]: three and three Ams.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: likeck you.

[cobra]: just blue. It's just blue instead of red.

[hosty_matt]: yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh my God, in other news, me has been sued

[ll_cool_c_est]: and and is forced to pay a billion dollars to the Scotch company Loers of

[ll_cool_c_est]: three.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I can't wait for that.

[hosty_matt]: I'm I'm excited for our future over Lord the Scotch company. So moving on,

[hosty_matt]: Have you guys ever dance with the Devil in the moonlight?

[ll_cool_c_est]: No, that sounds like I did not give consent

[cobra]: I did.

[hosty_matt]: Okay, Yeah,

[cobra]: It was not consensual.

[hosty_matt]: how how was it? Mm. Okay? Well, there you go, Chris. You' correct.

[hosty_matt]: So we you guys? I think it's well known that Michael Keaton's coming back to to

[hosty_matt]: play

[ll_cool_c_est]: thanfully

[hosty_matt]: Batman, Um, he is going to show up in the Flash

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[hosty_matt]: movie, as as Badman The Flash movie Is Is pretty well known that it's going to

[hosty_matt]: cover Flash Point, Uh, to some large degree, if not

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[hosty_matt]: all of it. And so, um, interesting article came out uh, in Gzmoo and talks about

[hosty_matt]: why Michael Keaton didn't continue playing the Batman one. Joel Schhoacher. uh,

[hosty_matt]: took over and and he wanted to. Apparently, But one of the reasons why I didn't

[hosty_matt]: take over or even continue is that Joshumacher basically said, which I think is

[hosty_matt]: hilarious. He said. I don't understand why everything has to be so dark and

[hosty_matt]: everything's so sad,

[cobra]: You have to Okay. I'm not going to make you do this, but please, in your minds,

[cobra]: listeners, you have to read this if you know with Joshacher's voice, because it just

[cobra]: makes it a tall times better.

[hosty_matt]: Y.

[cobra]: It' like the most lamboyant person in the in the history of space time.

[hosty_matt]: And so anyway, so Michael Keon, you should do that by the way, But Michael King

[hosty_matt]: goes on and says he just he missed the entire point of that man right. The

[hosty_matt]: entire important bad man for Michael Keaton was like he has a secret. He never

[hosty_matt]: talks about it. And and Michael Keaton took the took the role. It' like why. why

[hosty_matt]: would Bruce Wayne? what kind of person

[hosty_matt]: becomes Batman like? And and I think you know, Lu, You've talk about the pass

[hosty_matt]: about what makes the best Batman for He, his house, who plays Bruce Wayne, and

[hosty_matt]: and well, um Keating'. portrayal of a rich person as Ba, a Batman wasn't

[hosty_matt]: necessarily top notch. Understanding where he was coming from.

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: Really makes me excited about him

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm, Mhm,

[hosty_matt]: coming back. Uh, to the flash of backro,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[hosty_matt]: I think is is the tater using for the movie because I think that if that's the

[hosty_matt]: way he's playing it, it'll be really interesting to see how he he presents that

[hosty_matt]: on

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[hosty_matt]: screen.

[cobra]: yeah, I, reading this article it made makes me wonder why his portracause. you'

[cobra]: right. I don't. I don't think his portrayal of Bruce Wayain was

[cobra]: necessarily the best. It was not the best one and I know a lot of it was Timbrton's

[cobra]: direction. Um. but it makes me wonder why he was such a subdued thing. you know, the

[cobra]: The.

[cobra]: Let's call it what it is. The insane psychopathy that that belies being Batman and

[cobra]: being Bruce Wayne with. Based on his story, he was very subdued like you could tell.

[cobra]: he was trying to brood. But he couldn't really breod properly. He was a good bat man.

[cobra]: right. Um, at least I found him a good badman even though he couldn't turn his

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah,

[cobra]: neck. But that's not his fault.

[hosty_matt]: I mean, maybe he. maybe he should have uh, watched Um

[hosty_matt]: cat videos and read about Kirk Obe, to to know how to breod properly like Robert

[cobra]: Oh, like, like Robert Patterson, Yeah, that

[hosty_matt]: Patterson. Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: but he would need time travel for that and that wasn't his method at the

[ll_cool_c_est]: time. Michael Hiegon,

[cobra]: that that's true.

[hosty_matt]: Grkovey was alive at his his pointing time, so that's

[ll_cool_c_est]: I was wondering about that, too.

[cobra]: He, He was not not even famous at the time,

[hosty_matt]: yeah.

[cobra]: cause Ba, M. the first Badman came out in eighty nine, Right,

[ll_cool_c_est]: I think

[cobra]: So he was just like a year or two. From then. That's when you know Nirvana would blow

[cobra]: up, but yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: think Kton's,

[cobra]: I don't.

[ll_cool_c_est]: uh, keon's. Bruce

[ll_cool_c_est]: was pretty human for me, and up until that point you he was the first to

[ll_cool_c_est]: break to break. You know the seal on this character for for a lot of us, I'm

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: not saying he's the best, but I think it made it made his his approach

[ll_cool_c_est]: relable. So I agree with you, Ma. it'll be interesting to see what his aged

[ll_cool_c_est]: up, uh, Bruce Slashbatman will, how how that one will behave in in in

[ll_cool_c_est]: relation to the other characters. Um, and and you know what, Based on on that

[ll_cool_c_est]: position, I know I have more respect for him as as a former Batman act,

[ll_cool_c_est]: former, and like returning Bat Man actor, it gives me like. I giveve him tons

[ll_cool_c_est]: of points for that and it

[ll_cool_c_est]: reaffirms how that like it reaffirms the devastation to the franchise that

[cobra]: Yeah, for sure.

[ll_cool_c_est]: the shoe mocker movies have have have rereked upon.

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: So

[cobra]: that's that's one of like cause he went, you know with Volkmor and it's not

[cobra]: Volcimer's fault. Actually think he did actually a pretty good job

[ll_cool_c_est]: it's not his fault.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I would agree,

[cobra]: as Bruce Wayne'. Sorry is Batman. sorry?

[hosty_matt]: Is it is it George Clloony's fault?

[cobra]: No, also also not. But like that's what I was going to say, like he did the Volcumor

[cobra]: movie and it is like You know what I haven't fucked this in in the As Enough, let me

[cobra]: make another one where Batman has nipples in his suit. Yeah, it's like.

[ll_cool_c_est]: and the uh and the uh, accentuated cod pieces.

[cobra]: Yeah. Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: Mhm, Mhm,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Listen, wow,

[cobra]: and and let's let's let's make sure we throw in a Holy pirle of jut. Batman

[ll_cool_c_est]: yeah,

[cobra]: is a reference to to defence.

[ll_cool_c_est]: one day I've

[hosty_matt]: He. just

[ll_cool_c_est]: got to do.

[hosty_matt]: what was going to say? He just wanted to make like a movie based on the Tv

[hosty_matt]: series from the the

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: sixties. It's platantly obvious.

[cobra]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is.

[ll_cool_c_est]: and yet had a terrible? The ambiguously gay duo did a better job

[ll_cool_c_est]: then the Shoacher movies.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, yeah, they really did.

[cobra]: Well, they were like their hearts were not into it at all.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Well, which one who? the like? the ambiguity Gayo. No, They. they were in it.

[hosty_matt]: They are in it to win it.

[cobra]: No, I. No, they,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes,

[cobra]: where they were. I'm saying I'm saying

[cobra]: Volkumer and George, Cloney and fucking Christians later, I always. it always blows

[cobra]: my mind that Christians leader played. It

[ll_cool_c_est]: no,

[cobra]: wasn't Christ,

[cobra]: Chriso,

[hosty_matt]: No, Chris O'donnell

[ll_cool_c_est]: Chs, O.

[cobra]: Chrisodona, I, they're the same person

[cobra]: in my head

[ll_cool_c_est]: He was a decent Robin.

[hosty_matt]: Fair enough.

[cobra]: always always. I always mistake the to. Yeah, like none of them were into it at all,

[cobra]: but y. yeah. I. I. It's

[hosty_matt]: You know what? Though I will say this about those movies. It did give us arold

[hosty_matt]: as Mister

[cobra]: true true.

[hosty_matt]: Frees, which is just a chef's kiss.

[cobra]: It did give us. It also gave us ▁jim Cary, as as the

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes,

[cobra]: riddler and that was actually pretty

[hosty_matt]: Yp,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes,

[cobra]: decent.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Tony,

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Tommy, Tommy jones, Tommy Le Jones,

[cobra]: Lee

[hosty_matt]: Lee Jones.

[cobra]: Jones. That that that he was

[hosty_matt]: No,

[cobra]: too. It was too much Tommy Le Jones and too little two face for me.

[hosty_matt]: well, the problem was, he was all crazy to face and none of like

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: saying Toof,

[cobra]: yeah,

[cobra]: there was no high re dent. It was just two face.

[hosty_matt]: No. yeah, Wh. where is Harvey Dent? No one? no one knows.

[cobra]: No, yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: as its last,

[cobra]: yeah,

[hosty_matt]: Um.

[hosty_matt]: Okay Segu on to our next topic.

[hosty_matt]: Have you guys heard of that sweet sweet recurring revenue?

[ll_cool_c_est]: What does that mean Is that is that far jars again?

[cobra]: that's that's no. that's just

[hosty_matt]: What could be?

[cobra]: that's just mad literally reading from our board.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Do tell.

[hosty_matt]: Um? Well it is it's It's Playstation finally figuring the fuck out. that ▁x box

[hosty_matt]: game pass is going to destroy worlds unless they also get in on the business And

[hosty_matt]: so they are starting to start talks and plan for their own subscription service.

[hosty_matt]: So, instead of Playstation Plus, which has been their online access and a free

[hosty_matt]: game or two a month

[ll_cool_c_est]: that's what I have.

[hosty_matt]: system, Playstation Now, which is sort of their online streaming service,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh, that's what the shit is. Thank you. Forget that

[hosty_matt]: Uh, yes, that's Playstation. Now you welcome. Everyone's learning something

[hosty_matt]: today.

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: They're going to create a service that's going to try to match game pass. Now,

[hosty_matt]: listen,

[cobra]: they're going to call it

[ll_cool_c_est]: Playstation

[cobra]: plus

[hosty_matt]: uh,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Playstation move.

[hosty_matt]: sorry, what? now

[cobra]: No, it's plus. I'm telling you.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Are you serious?

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh my god,

[cobra]: like Sony.

[cobra]: you know. Listen, Microsoft

[hosty_matt]: you?

[cobra]: is awful at naming things. they. They're awful and Sony is managing to make it worse

[cobra]: than which is. It's a feat.

[hosty_matt]: Well, in this case, Yes,

[cobra]: Just now we were talking about the the The A R thing, Vi r thing that they had. It

[cobra]: was just called Playstation Move.

[cobra]: What

[hosty_matt]: they like

[cobra]: What Move? Where?

[hosty_matt]: simplicity. you know, I'll give them credit. Playstation five W is makes way

[hosty_matt]: more sense than ▁x box

[ll_cool_c_est]: Sies,

[hosty_matt]: one, ▁x plus said ▁x, Y.

[cobra]: Well, Microsoft is taking a page from from Apple right, just adding random letters

[cobra]: and words after the name of the thing.

[hosty_matt]: Well, at least then you don't know if the old version of console you have is

[hosty_matt]: infaor or not, Because none

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: of the names makes sense. anyway. we're talking about Playstations, S. the

[hosty_matt]: service, And you know the the report coming out of of this article We' reading

[hosty_matt]: which stole from Bluemberg, I mean, borrow from Blueberg. They did sitite them

[hosty_matt]: in their article. Um, talks about having a number of different teers, which is

[hosty_matt]: already problematic.

[hosty_matt]: Um, but essentially uh. they're going to offer different teers and depending on

[hosty_matt]: the tier you'll get access to certain games. You know, maybe maybe the first

[hosty_matt]: year they're talking about is like some of the older games. Second here might

[hosty_matt]: add streaming third teers going to be the most expensive games, et cetera, et

[hosty_matt]: cetera. They don't speciically talk about price in the article That do, sort of

[hosty_matt]: reference how much game pass costs. You know. It's ten to fifteen bucks a month,

[hosty_matt]: depending what version of Ing. Um.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Hm.

[hosty_matt]: I think for me I actually have game pass, but I pay for the most expensive level

[hosty_matt]: because it gives me both uh, ▁x box games and P C

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh,

[hosty_matt]: games, so I can swing both ways on that. Um, but it'll be interesting to see

[hosty_matt]: what they come up with because ▁x box has been ahead of this game by a large

[hosty_matt]: marr and ▁x boxes, and buying up studios left right in the center. You know the

[hosty_matt]: fact that they bought up all of um,

[hosty_matt]: uh, stop. Was it pathestive that owned everything, Is it? Yeah? butth, the

[hosty_matt]: orentmax, Yeah, they bought Azemax, so they got pathestta. They got uh, id. Um,

[cobra]: ▁ze Max,

[hosty_matt]: You know all the work they're doing there. And and not even an including partner

[hosty_matt]: with E a to grab y, a uh play. They are like years ahead of Playstation right

[hosty_matt]: now, so I'm wondering how Playstation is going to catch up. Playstation has

[hosty_matt]: excellent first party games, much like a Nintendo does, but beyond that I'm

[hosty_matt]: wondering what they're going to be able to offer. That's going to pequ people's

[hosty_matt]: interests against against game passest.

[cobra]: Yeah, Yeah. It's going to be hard for them to beat the fact that you get to play all

[cobra]: these now

[cobra]: somewhat exclusive games, or at least exclusive for a while, and you get to play them

[cobra]: on a console and on computer. Like. Is what is son going to do? They' got to come up

[cobra]: with their own computer.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, like ▁x box has got to the point where you know Hello Hale Infinant came

[hosty_matt]: out day one on game pass, So you didn't have to

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: buy. If you have game passs, you get access to it. So are they just going to

[hosty_matt]: follow what ▁x box is doing And that'll be that'll keep them parody. But I don't

[hosty_matt]: know if that's going to be enough.

[cobra]: why would you like unless you're really like a super

[cobra]: you, Sony fan and I love their first party games. And then maybe that's enough for

[cobra]: you to pay,

[cobra]: But even then is it worth it? I don't know this. They're coming in very late in the

[cobra]: game.

[ll_cool_c_est]: yeah. it's

[hosty_matt]: Yep.

[ll_cool_c_est]: risky. Um,

[cobra]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: like I don't consider myself.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Look if money was no object, I'd have all the consoles, but my, I just tend

[ll_cool_c_est]: to my pendulum just tends to swing towards the catalogu That. so he's got for

[ll_cool_c_est]: the most part for me. So

[ll_cool_c_est]: if they're able to to expand and diversify, throw their hat in the ring and

[ll_cool_c_est]: make it viable and sustainable. I'm cool with that. Um,

[ll_cool_c_est]: but if if if you know they've got a ton of resources, so I'm not saying

[ll_cool_c_est]: they're going to be able to pull it off Th, they should have enough to figure

[ll_cool_c_est]: something out. At least to figure out a phase won something. That's my guess.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm I

[hosty_matt]: yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: don't have the facts, but I agree with

[cobra]: maybe they can.

[ll_cool_c_est]: you. It's it. I agree with both of you. The gap is the gap they need to close

[ll_cool_c_est]: is really really large, so I am worried.

[cobra]: One way I can see them doing this. Is you know, partnering with Like Steam, they

[cobra]: releasing

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes,

[cobra]: some of their first party games on

[cobra]: Steam Anyway,

[ll_cool_c_est]: that. y. wow, Mhm.

[hosty_matt]: yp.

[cobra]: right, I just heard, actually that uncharted for. but actually,

[cobra]: the The collection

[hosty_matt]: y.

[cobra]: from a charter for coming out on on

[ll_cool_c_est]: That makes sense.

[cobra]: Pc and obviously got a war is. So, maybe that's the way,

[ll_cool_c_est]: If that's the case,

[hosty_matt]: if they partnered with epic,

[hosty_matt]: why do you laugh like that? I don

[hosty_matt]: epics completely viable

[cobra]: because I mean

[cobra]: it is,

[hosty_matt]: and an

[hosty_matt]: epic is very friendly and loving.

[cobra]: and they give out.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I said much

[cobra]: Okay,

[ll_cool_c_est]: sarcasm in youm.

[hosty_matt]: I don't know what you're talking about.

[ll_cool_c_est]: but yeah, whether it's with steam or I actually don't know what to say. Um,

[ll_cool_c_est]: but yeah, if they partner steam, I would. that would be a really great

[ll_cool_c_est]: partnership. That for me like, I don't have any aversion to steam. I just

[ll_cool_c_est]: haven't had a full enough re, of, like a concrete reason to to bleed into

[ll_cool_c_est]: that territory. but that would make it easy for me, because then I could game

[ll_cool_c_est]: on, my, on, my, on my P. C. I've I haven't used it in that way and I think I

[ll_cool_c_est]: could handle it.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, I'll be a interesting to see how far they go down this path, because it

[hosty_matt]: depends on what what market you' trying to capture, right, Chris, You spoke like

[hosty_matt]: you said. If I had all the money in the world, I would buy all the consoles. And

[hosty_matt]: because you have a a game library you want you. Can you pick Sony, but you also

[hosty_matt]: have the means to to buy whatever first party games they put out to play them?

[hosty_matt]: and I'm wondering if what they're really concerned about is families and kids

[hosty_matt]: where money is tight and trying to give them a reason to put a Playstation in

[hosty_matt]: their house in the first place. And so really it's just here is a cheap way to

[hosty_matt]: you buy the Playstation five. You pay ten dollars and you have a bunch of games

[hosty_matt]: you can choose from the pay, so it gives them an open library to play from. to

[hosty_matt]: have the console in their house and to collect that revenue from them. Um,

[hosty_matt]: because that's really the value that game pass has right now Is there's hundreds

[hosty_matt]: and hundreds of games. So if you bought an ▁x box for Christmas or you

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[hosty_matt]: found one and you got game passed at fifteen bucks a month, Though that's way

[hosty_matt]: cheaper to have access to like a ho, like thousands of games. then to be like,

[hosty_matt]: Oh, I have to buy this new video game and it's eighty

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: dollars and it's like fifteen hours of gameplay. Fuck my life.

[ll_cool_c_est]: you know

[cobra]: yeah, and if they have like family plans right,

[cobra]: that also helps a lot with like off. setting that and again by your, you know, going

[cobra]: by what you said on your on the call out, know that sweete recoury revenue comes in

[cobra]: and then

[hosty_matt]: Yep,

[cobra]: they can do stuff.

[ll_cool_c_est]: there's another. There's one more aspect or more piece of this. I think Will

[ll_cool_c_est]: that. I think game passes can help to combat, no matter which way the

[ll_cool_c_est]: pendulum feels for you.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Piracy. I think by making your library just it all goes back to like, like

[ll_cool_c_est]: our digital music before, like back in our napster in Kaza, et Ctera, et

[ll_cool_c_est]: Ctera Days, when you make your shit available, it makes it harder for people

[ll_cool_c_est]: to pi. in a sense, cause like it's

[hosty_matt]: yup,

[ll_cool_c_est]: accessible. it's already there, so why go through the trouble?

[cobra]: It's lot harder. it. just it less

[cobra]: incentive. right to? Yeah, For sure?

[ll_cool_c_est]: That's what. I mean to say.

[hosty_matt]: Well, it's harder to go pirate. something that it is to just go to a thing and

[hosty_matt]: click play

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah, Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: right.

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: so

[ll_cool_c_est]: like okay, Well you, I got it. I don't have to work as hard. I am

[ll_cool_c_est]: contributing to the to the teams and people who made it. I don't feel as bad

[ll_cool_c_est]: so much, depending on where you kind of sit on, you know, the spectrum of

[ll_cool_c_est]: consumption.

[hosty_matt]: yeah, yeah,

[cobra]: honestly, sometimes it's going to be for people like

[cobra]: honestly, sometimes it's going to be for people like

[cobra]: I'd rather pay five dollars and not have to worry about where I go to pirate this

[cobra]: game.

[hosty_matt]: yep,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: it's so

[cobra]: right.

[hosty_matt]: cheap right. it's it. It just is. uh. let's that wait to our next topic. Um. are

[hosty_matt]: you guys? have you got heard of how I met your father?

[cobra]: No,

[hosty_matt]: It's it's the.

[cobra]: do I want to.

[hosty_matt]: It's the.

[ll_cool_c_est]: the

[hosty_matt]: No. Well you're gonna. so don't worry. if you want to. it's about to be forced

[ll_cool_c_est]: force fed force

[hosty_matt]: into your ear holes.

[cobra]: No.

[ll_cool_c_est]: fed ies. forc.

[hosty_matt]: So

[hosty_matt]: how I met your father is a

[hosty_matt]: successor spirit. It's not spiritual because it's actually some of the same

[hosty_matt]: people doing it. But is this a successor or the next stage of the high Am,

[hosty_matt]: mature, mother or how I met you are. vers.

[cobra]: They're calling it a spin off. I guess

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, but I, I listen. I'm not going to. I'm going to say this doesn't a spin

[hosty_matt]: offff. require at least one character from from of the show

[ll_cool_c_est]: Usually,

[hosty_matt]: to spin off of it.

[cobra]: yeah. Yeah, it does

[ll_cool_c_est]: maybe the maybe the bar is going to be the The The bridge.

[ll_cool_c_est]: maybe the maybe the bar is going to be the The The bridge.

[hosty_matt]: That's that's how you spin off of something.

[hosty_matt]: not from what I saw in the trailer. But hey,

[hosty_matt]: so

[hosty_matt]: so the trailer came out, or the trailer? We saw a new trailer and it starts to

[hosty_matt]: show the framework of the How I met your verse,

[hosty_matt]: Exp, you know, showing up so in the original with How I met your mother. I,

[hosty_matt]: whichish a show I love? Um, it has.

[cobra]: until the last season. when

[hosty_matt]: we don't want to. N. no. No.

[cobra]: yeah, we don't want to talk about it. You're right,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Let let it happen. It happen.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, so they used. Um, Oh, my God, why is his name the narrator? What's his

[hosty_matt]: name? not coming to my head?

[cobra]: Bob. Sa.

[hosty_matt]: Thank you. Bob Saga was a

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[hosty_matt]: narrator for Ted in all the the future scenes, and we saw in the trailer that

[hosty_matt]: Kim Cattrell, uh is. instead of bothering with whatever that Sex in the City

[hosty_matt]: reboot is, she is lenting her voice to be the uh, future voice of the main

[hosty_matt]: character. Who in this show is Lizzie Mcguire? I mean,

[cobra]: Yeah, See, this is where it begins to unravel for me.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah, and for me like I was when I saw the the flashes of of like the new

[ll_cool_c_est]: show and someone on from certain angles, she doesn't look like herself and I

[ll_cool_c_est]: was like fresh face

[hosty_matt]: No,

[ll_cool_c_est]: that a dad. But then the camera angle changes like Oh, and I saw the neighbor

[ll_cool_c_est]: like

[hosty_matt]: just De Clearla, Everybody. that's Hillary Duff. It's in just in case you don't

[hosty_matt]: know who Lizziequiirs.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I wish it waszuire That would have made it easy. An easy and easy pa

[cobra]: That would have made it least like. interestingly weird.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Lize

[cobra]: What?

[hosty_matt]: Yes,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mcguire, looking for love

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mcguire, looking for love

[ll_cool_c_est]: in all the

[cobra]: in her thirties?

[ll_cool_c_est]: wrong place looking beow

[cobra]: Yeah, Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: so so interestingly. enough about this. When we see this trailer, Um, you see

[hosty_matt]: sort of the the cast of people who are going to be involved in it. The trailer

[hosty_matt]: is actually too quick. It's weird for a terrial for a television show because

[hosty_matt]: the trailer is too quick to really get a feel for who anybody is. You know

[hosty_matt]: Hilary Dusks character, Because that's a central character. That is the the

[hosty_matt]: mother from the title, but there are her friends and I'm not sure who exactly is

[hosty_matt]: in her friend circle, The same way you know the car the cast was from Ho. But

[hosty_matt]: your mother, um, and you see Kim Cattrell in this trailer which you never saw

[hosty_matt]: Bob second. And and how much

[cobra]: that's true.

[hosty_matt]: your mother? Um, so I? I. I can't make catch your tales, But what I can't say is

[hosty_matt]: I'm really concerned about the production values on this television show because

[hosty_matt]: there are numerous scenes where it doesn't look like the backgrounds are real or

[hosty_matt]: looks like they' cardbo cutouts. I don't know what it is, but the feel of it is

[hosty_matt]: like it is not a real place. It is there are nobody around. There's nobody

[hosty_matt]: around.

[cobra]: Maybe they're going. Maybe they're going with like a

[cobra]: German impressionist

[cobra]: twist on this, And it' actually all like in the theatre of the mind of an insane

[cobra]: person played by Kim Controlr. I don't know

[hosty_matt]: Doesn't seem me very funny. It is a comedy. right.

[ll_cool_c_est]: internal sunshine of the spotless mind approach

[hosty_matt]: O. okay,

[cobra]: are more like the never happening

[cobra]: Ren of the dirty mind. I don't know. It's Kim control.

[hosty_matt]: I, I see what you' try to do there. but uh, I

[cobra]: I fa.

[hosty_matt]: hated it. Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: points two griffondor,

[hosty_matt]: you know it it.

[hosty_matt]: If thank you it does. It does try to modernize some of the takes so I see how it

[hosty_matt]: might appeal to a new audience. You know there, you know. it brings up dating

[hosty_matt]: apps and stuff like that. And and that's fine, but it's just

[hosty_matt]: it just seems weird to take a concept like how I met your mother and try to make

[hosty_matt]: a sequel or a spin offr Calling of it. because, other than

[hosty_matt]: switching the mother, the father for a mother,

[hosty_matt]: what are we doing here? What? what? what is this? Why? Why do we have to? What

[hosty_matt]: tropings are we carrying through That? Make it the The, The spin off for the

[hosty_matt]: successor right,

[ll_cool_c_est]: it's tricky,

[cobra]: Well, it's it's just a framing device, Right, because the whole,

[cobra]: the, the, the point of it being called high, met your mother.

[cobra]: It is like an interesting frameing device. For why is this story

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[cobra]: happening Right's

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, yeah,

[cobra]: just an old guy boring his children with the story of his life

[hosty_matt]: y.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[cobra]: and they' going to repeat

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yep,

[cobra]: that. I guess. but then that's where it ends. I guess like that's how much of a spin

[cobra]: off it is. It's not really a spin off as much as it is. Oh, I'm going to steal this

[cobra]: concept. Oh, but I'm stilling for myself,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm,

[cobra]: so that's okay

[hosty_matt]: right.

[ll_cool_c_est]: copy and paste.

[cobra]: like I don't understand What.

[cobra]: Yeah, Yeah, for sure,

[cobra]: I don't

[ll_cool_c_est]: It's copy

[cobra]: understand.

[ll_cool_c_est]: and paste

[ll_cool_c_est]: ▁x amount of years,

[ll_cool_c_est]: ▁x amount of years ahead with current with current. I don't know the current

[ll_cool_c_est]: trappings in herr,

[ll_cool_c_est]: lessons and insights.

[hosty_matt]: it's it's a. It's a remake, right. It's like it's like when they did the psycho

[hosty_matt]: remake with Um. Vince

[ll_cool_c_est]: Y.

[hosty_matt]: Vauh, and they just did a sh for shot Like that's what it feels like. but not

[hosty_matt]: for shop shot. I guess

[hosty_matt]: anyways. it's It's airing on Holu in the states. I don't know where we'll find

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm not going to find it.

[hosty_matt]: it in in Canada.

[cobra]: O.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm not going to find it.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm not going to find it.

[cobra]: Oh, I'm I'm waiting for an entire season to come out and reading. You know, Um,

[cobra]: reviews to before I even decide whether I'm going to try to watch this

[ll_cool_c_est]: Listen

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: this show. I, you know, shut out to keepm control. fellow Canadian,

[ll_cool_c_est]: I can't wait for the show to fail.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I want it to. I. I wanted it

[hosty_matt]: wow,

[ll_cool_c_est]: to win, But since I don't know who the Barney Stincson is going to be, I

[ll_cool_c_est]: don't

[cobra]: right.

[ll_cool_c_est]: know.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I don't know.

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: but even then

[cobra]: but but here's the thing. Go ahead.

[hosty_matt]: I think we're going to say the same thing. Even then, I don't want another

[hosty_matt]: Barney like he was funny, because it was

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[hosty_matt]: unique and it was fun to see Neil Patrick's play that character. But

[cobra]: Yeah, yeah,

[hosty_matt]: don't give me the same five characters again. I don't. I don't need that. That's

[hosty_matt]: not going to work. because ill like Oh', it's the least lesser version of How

[hosty_matt]: about your mother?

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm not looking for a

[cobra]: yeah, yeah, because,

[ll_cool_c_est]: copy. I'm just wondering if there's going to be a ▁zany character.

[hosty_matt]: Oh the

[hosty_matt]: breako,

[cobra]: because,

[cobra]: yeah,

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[cobra]: because I remember when I first started watching High met your mother. I was like,

[cobra]: probably coming off of a friend's bing again, which is, you know, a very recurring

[cobra]: thing, and I started watching and in the first, actually, the first season. It tries

[cobra]: a little bit to kind of get. Oh, this isn't the new friends, but they kind of break

[cobra]: out of it after

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm, Mhm,

[cobra]: a while. And and that makes it it's It's a similar feel of a show, but it has its own

[cobra]: thing, this one just from the name alone, And the fact that it's using the same prem

[cobra]: of device. It feels like it's going to be like. You know, Next Generation on the

[cobra]: first season were just trying to copy the original series

[hosty_matt]: Yep,

[cobra]: and then they figured out Okay, No, we can't do this. But now are they going to

[cobra]: change the whole thing completely And do they have

[cobra]: the writing skills and the

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yeah,

[cobra]: cast to do? so?

[hosty_matt]: are they going to have the time to figure it

[cobra]: Oh yeah, there's that too. right.

[hosty_matt]: out? Shits canceled way faster nowadays right,

[ll_cool_c_est]: you shot

[cobra]: that's true. Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: out to a cowboy B. Bo r. I. P.

[cobra]: did it. What did it get canceled?

[ll_cool_c_est]: Sadly it did.

[hosty_matt]: oh, yeah, well, so hard so fast

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm so sorry.

[cobra]: What I'm watching it right now? I actually enjoy it.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I'm yeah. I'm so sorry.

[hosty_matt]: we can. We can maybe dig into Cby, be for

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[hosty_matt]: anime adaptations on a later

[ll_cool_c_est]: Hm,

[hosty_matt]: show. Think a lot me bones there, but I think the fundamental challenge that it

[hosty_matt]: had was that it was never going to satisfy enough people

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: based on its premise of trying to remake a beloved anime and tell the story, but

[hosty_matt]: tell in a different way. It's just problematic. best,

[cobra]: yeah, and actually that, that is a good kind of description of this highetr father

[cobra]: thing, Because either it's going to be super different and then the hardcore friends

[cobra]: of how met your mother are going to go. This is nothing like that, or it's going to

[cobra]: be exactly the same and then everybody is like. Why am I watching this?

[ll_cool_c_est]: yeah,

[cobra]: I've watched this already, so yeah, I guess what you're like, it's like

[cobra]: doom to fail almost unless they do something magical.

[ll_cool_c_est]: yeah, and this is. this is for me why there's so much me in my system about

[ll_cool_c_est]: this is that they haven't d like. I don't. I don't mean to go supernerd, but

[ll_cool_c_est]: I don't see the value prop in this

[ll_cool_c_est]: versus

[cobra]: Yeah, a hundred percent

[ll_cool_c_est]: right versus Um. Do you guys remember Uh, Did you see the John Kussaac movie

[ll_cool_c_est]: High Fidelity And

[hosty_matt]: y

[ll_cool_c_est]: did you? did

[cobra]: long time ago. Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: you know that they made a? Uh? They made a. They were made a Tv Ser that ▁zoe

[ll_cool_c_est]: Crabbs, uh, gender flip. As it was great, the music it was.

[cobra]: oh, really.

[ll_cool_c_est]: It came out two, maybe two a year and a half ago, Hon Holu

[ll_cool_c_est]: really really well done. It's not it. not at all. a shot for shot Concept is

[ll_cool_c_est]: rich.

[ll_cool_c_est]: It, it follows, follows the book really really well and it didn't go beyond

[ll_cool_c_est]: the first season, But I'm telling you guys it, that was art That

[hosty_matt]: y,

[ll_cool_c_est]: that worked

[cobra]: But look at how many, look at how many

[cobra]: important things you mentioned that this thing has that. how much your father doesn't

[ll_cool_c_est]: right and that's the fucking conundrum.

[hosty_matt]: mhm, Exactly

[cobra]: and it's still

[ll_cool_c_est]: Right

[cobra]: got cancelled like. Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: If this show makes it two

[cobra]: I.

[ll_cool_c_est]: seasons, I'm going to kick something going.

[cobra]: yeah. No. I was going to say, I think Ma might actually be a Gling review for this,

[hosty_matt]: how I me, your father,

[cobra]: please, way out of this fuck you,

[ll_cool_c_est]: That was pretty good. Fifty points to Griffond door,

[hosty_matt]: I did it. I did it. Um,

[cobra]: you know. mad as Raven Clo. come on.

[hosty_matt]: no, I'm griffdor. I tested myself.

[cobra]: Oh, did you?

[hosty_matt]: Yep,

[cobra]: I just assume' Slithering you know,

[cobra]: given the nickname Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: you are. I can tell.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I got to myself.

[hosty_matt]: Um, so let's we're getting near the end of this, Um. a couple of of news, Uh

[hosty_matt]: items that are quick, Um, some some good news. I would say

[hosty_matt]: it's not great news. It's positive news. Riot Games has

[cobra]: make up your funy mind.

[hosty_matt]: agreed well because I don't know enough about the bigger, the bigger impact of

[hosty_matt]: riot. Uh, agreeing to pay a a hundred million dollars in settlement of the

[hosty_matt]: gender discrimination class. I should losit fily against the Bits employees. It

[hosty_matt]: seems

[cobra]: Well,

[hosty_matt]: like a good amount of money. Um, you know, it seems like a lot of money is is

[hosty_matt]: going to go their way And and that's great. Um,

[cobra]: yeah, eighty million of of

[hosty_matt]: y.

[cobra]: the hundred million goes to the employees

[hosty_matt]: yeah,

[cobra]: that are part of theit.

[hosty_matt]: which is really great. I just want to see why I continue

[hosty_matt]: improving themselves right so

[cobra]: Yeah, like not having to pay another settlement in the

[ll_cool_c_est]: I

[ll_cool_c_est]: isssssssssssssss.

[hosty_matt]: wellcause. it feels a little bit like how you know we saw we seen those classic

[cobra]: basically

[hosty_matt]: stories of like car companies

[hosty_matt]: would would send people to figure out if they should fix defects or not like.

[hosty_matt]: the cost of paying out deathts was cheaper

[cobra]: O. yeah,

[hosty_matt]: than fixing the thing Like I, I'm not saying rights doing this. I don't want to

[hosty_matt]: put them in that category, but it's it's

[hosty_matt]: they fucked up and they, they should pay for their fuckus, But what are they

[hosty_matt]: doing to make sure they're not fucking up again? What are they doing To make

[hosty_matt]: sure you know like I don't know. I remember reading an article aw whileil ago

[hosty_matt]: about right having to

[hosty_matt]: Um, they had forced settlements in their contracts and I think they remove that

[hosty_matt]: clause finally. So

[cobra]: yeah. yeah.

[hosty_matt]: that's the set of steps we need to see right do in order to to really turn their

[hosty_matt]: company around

[cobra]: what what I read when I was reading about this particular piece of news. Is that

[cobra]: there you know, the

[cobra]: the lawyers that were on the side of the or they were negotiating in for the the

[cobra]: employees they part of the settlement,

[cobra]: Um,

[cobra]: obviously was, um.

[cobra]: What do you call it? Um, law, uh, Like the feast, The the Bl people fees. words are

[cobra]: heart, Um, and part of it was making a plan for like policy changes and all that kind

[cobra]: of stuff that needs to happen. So it's like a work in progress More than just like

[cobra]: Okay. We're done. We're paid out. Fuck you like it's some. It's more and there's more

[cobra]: work happening. So, from what I read, it was like all around a positive thing, and

[cobra]: the money was just like the icy on the cake. But like, I guess we're going to see

[cobra]: right.

[hosty_matt]: well, and just just that Rais that that caution flag. You know. the article does

[hosty_matt]: stipulate that Ri had agreed to settle the suit in twenty nineteen for ten

[hosty_matt]: million dollars, but Um.

[cobra]: Yeah, that was bad.

[hosty_matt]: California's Department of Fair Employment and Housing, interven blocking it,

[hosty_matt]: saying they should be entitled to much. Four hundred million. so,

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: Um, I'm glad they. They've come to a better settlement.

[cobra]: like ten. No four hundred dudes.

[cobra]: So but was that was a change in in leadership between them and now I think could be

[cobra]: wrong.

[hosty_matt]: One, one guy was kicked out, but without a complete change.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Hm,

[cobra]: Anyway, you're right Like this is like good a good sign, but let's see what happens

[cobra]: going forward

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, sping of terrible

[cobra]: Fa.

[hosty_matt]: companies who can't figure their s self out. Um,

[hosty_matt]: there was a video game awards that was done recently. Uh, the

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: the Jeff Keelley led Uh video game awards and Uh, just gave you a really high

[hosty_matt]: level review. Um, I believe the Game of the Year was. Oh Jesus, where is this

[hosty_matt]: was the two of us.

[cobra]: there's a link here somewhere.

[hosty_matt]: Was it The two of us?

[cobra]: No game of the year. Was it takes two?

[hosty_matt]: It takes two, um

[ll_cool_c_est]: dont

[hosty_matt]: at and the same way to this beautiful beautiful conversation is that Uh Blizzard

[hosty_matt]: didn't win shit, and um

[cobra]: It was. they were removed. All the game. All activation. Blizzard games were removed

[hosty_matt]: y, everything

[cobra]: from the roster.

[ll_cool_c_est]: justice.

[hosty_matt]: was remove for Blizzard because they are the poster child for how to run your

[hosty_matt]: company in the wors possible way, and not just

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: historically. I mean current present day.

[hosty_matt]: I'm not going to go any farther into Blizzard. It's fucked. Read about it. You

[hosty_matt]: can check out lots of stuff, and from Bloomberg and Jason Schreer. Kaku does a

[hosty_matt]: number of reporting on it. It's it's messy and they need to figure the shit up.

[hosty_matt]: Um, let's let's end on two really quick ones. Really interesting. once

[hosty_matt]: interesting. a one one is. Um.

[hosty_matt]: Well it's funny. let's just call what it is. Um,

[hosty_matt]: how are you guys with Matic gathering?

[ll_cool_c_est]: I know of it, and I couldn't afford the cards in high school, so I wased from

[ll_cool_c_est]: a far with a single tear, and played marble versus Catcom

[cobra]: I, I know of it, and collectible card games are cult and I refuse to join

[hosty_matt]: Okay, well,

[hosty_matt]: Chris,

[hosty_matt]: you'll be happy

[ll_cool_c_est]: Mhm.

[hosty_matt]: to know that. Um,

[hosty_matt]: a company called Beling Grim has decided to create a bunch of accessories for

[hosty_matt]: Massive gather.

[ll_cool_c_est]: accessories

[hosty_matt]: Yeah, so we're looking at like you know. Uh

[ll_cool_c_est]: off.

[hosty_matt]: bags to hold your cards. No, these are actual physical accessories.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Oh, oh, thank goodness, continued.

[hosty_matt]: You know, Those bags or boxes hold your cars. plushies representing characters.

[hosty_matt]: Um, and one of things Arere selling is the Chemawa plot. Maudition, me, tell you

[hosty_matt]: what's in

[ll_cool_c_est]: Okay. Okay,

[hosty_matt]: this

[hosty_matt]: Suffer. there is a demon themed lightning blue deck box,

[hosty_matt]: one hundred gold dragon sleeves. An ▁l e d playmat, a art card folio, a world

[hosty_matt]: map of Uh Cameigawa, a metal counter set, a demon mask necklace, Psychic plush,

[hosty_matt]: inclusive, black and neon pink, Neon Dynasty theme backback,

[cobra]: you. Going to read this whole thing.

[hosty_matt]: I am Camy themed, neon pink deck, Boox, a hundred black dragon sleeves, a sword

[hosty_matt]: adorned card Vaalt Camee Gaawa Art Walart poster, five liographic art prints in

[hosty_matt]: Worldl Guide to Cameigawa and an art inspired life counter. So Chris,

[cobra]: This, this program

[cobra]: sponsored by

[cobra]: Bill and Grim,

[hosty_matt]: Chris,

[cobra]: I wish

[ll_cool_c_est]: How easy

[hosty_matt]: what?

[ll_cool_c_est]: pains do I have to make in order to get this,

[hosty_matt]: what? What would you pay

[hosty_matt]: for this?

[ll_cool_c_est]: I would say

[ll_cool_c_est]: four easy payments of sixty, sixty five, ninety nine, sea plus C, o d,

[hosty_matt]: Okay? Okay, good, um, and how much you think that Plusi Od would be just just

[hosty_matt]: stuff stuff atop your head.

[ll_cool_c_est]: ninety nine, ninety nine. Like the backpack for me, and the coins are kind of

[ll_cool_c_est]: cool. I'm looking at them. Um.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: I, I, That's the thing with collectible like card games that scare me, like

[ll_cool_c_est]: the playable card games. Um, I, I feel like I never felt like I have control

[ll_cool_c_est]: on like, based on the packs I would get, and that for me is both fun but

[ll_cool_c_est]: anxiety inducing. And then I got to go out and then like go to the shops or

[ll_cool_c_est]: whatever, and thenm, you're slapped in the face with like the really good

[ll_cool_c_est]: cards that are really expensive and so teenage Chris was like frozen out

[ll_cool_c_est]: before he can even start now. I'm like

[hosty_matt]: right.

[ll_cool_c_est]: a little. I'm a little worried because it's like how much of has this shit

[ll_cool_c_est]: appreciated? You know what I mean.

[hosty_matt]: well, Chris. Um, you're going to have to give me seven point one, three easy

[hosty_matt]: payments of sixty nine, ninety five. In order to purchase all this, it costs

[hosty_matt]: four hundred and ninety nine dollars and they are

[cobra]: u.

[hosty_matt]: ▁zero U. And there are ▁zero magic cards in this

[ll_cool_c_est]: What

[hosty_matt]: box of goodness.

[cobra]: Yeah. this is dumb.

[ll_cool_c_est]: all that? Yo. if I bought that it would end my meritage.

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: right,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Fuck,

[hosty_matt]: so listen,

[cobra]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: if you want to get back into match the gathering. Um Now it's not the time as

[hosty_matt]: what I'm getting.

[ll_cool_c_est]: don't do it. hold on

[hosty_matt]: I do it.

[ll_cool_c_est]: to your loved ones.

[hosty_matt]: We're in this one on on. It's not a news story. It's just

[hosty_matt]: a hilarious that's popped up. It's a new story.

[hosty_matt]: Are you faliar with Elmo?

[ll_cool_c_est]: Yes,

[cobra]: yes.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Ans can

[hosty_matt]: So

[hosty_matt]: yes, M. O has been beefing with a rock since about nineteen. ninety nine.

[ll_cool_c_est]: I collected one of the

[hosty_matt]: not the rock.

[ll_cool_c_est]: most collectibles from Magic gathering on

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[ll_cool_c_est]: sale at your local M. T, g dot com

[hosty_matt]: four ninety nine. No,

[hosty_matt]: but this rock is named Rocco, and it is a pet rock

[hosty_matt]: and

[hosty_matt]: conflict is at the heart of this new viral clip of the show. Um. but Rocco is

[hosty_matt]: apparently always pet rock. I don't watch the show anymore. Spoil alert. Um. And

[hosty_matt]: so the clip. Uh, if you can search for it, Um,

[hosty_matt]: I don't know the best way to find it. But anyway, If you so, a clip of Rockco

[ll_cool_c_est]: ter

[hosty_matt]: and Elmo

[hosty_matt]: on the Twitter. Basically, you're going to findmo,

[hosty_matt]: almosmo, confusion, rage, frustration at why a cooki needs to be saved for an

[hosty_matt]: inanimate rock.

[hosty_matt]: And honestly, it's just the most hilarious thing I've watched in a long time.

[hosty_matt]: It's the best palaleser.

[ll_cool_c_est]: the best is the best way to end really and truly. I didn't even know until it

[ll_cool_c_est]: was the best thing I didn't know I need, and ladies and gentlemen, everyone

[ll_cool_c_est]: across the spectrum. what a great way to start out. twenty twenty two

[hosty_matt]: Yeah,

[hosty_matt]: you're welcome. Everybody.

[cobra]: yeah,

[cobra]: just

[hosty_matt]: so

[cobra]: you know. I think I think

[cobra]: the the moral of this story is You know. if you think your life is shit, at least

[cobra]: youre not being mistreated because of a rock. Hopefully, because if you are holy

[cobra]: shit,

[cobra]: get better friends. I guess

[hosty_matt]: right ri ins eel, Take that to heart.

[ll_cool_c_est]: Dan

[hosty_matt]: Um,

[ll_cool_c_est]: family

[hosty_matt]: it's not about. it's not about family anymore. so yeah, that's that's it. That's

[hosty_matt]: our news report for December. it's There's a lot going on December, a little bit

[hosty_matt]: of January. For honest, we like to slip in the first couple of days before

[hosty_matt]: record so

[cobra]: basically it's basicall to whatever happened until the very moment we record.

[cobra]: Whenever that is.

[hosty_matt]: right, and we recorded on the fifth of January this year, our Lord, twenty

[hosty_matt]: twenty two.

[hosty_matt]: If you would like to question us, Jack, Oursanity, that sort of thing. The

[hosty_matt]: Twitters is a great way to do it at your wrong. cast. Uh, there's also a website

[hosty_matt]: that is w. w. w. dot your wrongcast out. See, hey, you're welcome,

[ll_cool_c_est]: Ws are dope

[hosty_matt]: Lociano. And and we have

[cobra]: No, he's not a matre salesman. What the fuck?

[ll_cool_c_est]: y. Even if you did do Bl do, Blv dublevet would be even doper.

[cobra]: You've been in Montreal for too long, Chris.

[ll_cool_c_est]: No dubleve is my favorite letter in in the French alphabet,

[hosty_matt]: Doblivet makes sense because W is not a U. but Dob Levet is

[cobra]: It's two. V.

[hosty_matt]: do. Vz. the French haven unlocked it.

[cobra]: Yeah, that's true.

[hosty_matt]: Um, there's also an email address. You, your wrong cast at Emil Dot Com, hit us

[hosty_matt]: up there, but yeah, that's it. for now. I am Mat.

[cobra]: I'm Luciano.

[ll_cool_c_est]: and I test it as thirty six percent Griffin door, twenty six percent help pu,

[ll_cool_c_est]: twenty four percent rabn cloth, forty percent slithering, so I made it into

[ll_cool_c_est]: Griffind door.

[hosty_matt]: welcome to the party, buddy.

[cobra]: I don't know. you're a half above to me.